Talk:Gwonbeop

"Quan fa is a generic term used for open handed Chinese martial arts. Gwonbeop was developed based on the methods of the Shaolin Temple and the techniques of Jang Song Gye (장송계 hanja: 張松溪). The hanja for quan fa and gwonbeop are the same. The chapter in the muyedobotongji dealing with gwonbeop was inspired by Chinese writings describing quan fa-techniques. It was the Chinese general Qi Jiguang who said that empty-handed fighting methods were impractical on the battlefield."

The empty hand methods illustrated in the Muye Dobo Tongji come from Qi Jiguang's Jinxiao Xinshu. Qi never mentioned using Shaolin (external) and Zhang Songxi's (internal) methods in his empty hand routine (only Shaolin staff methods and no mention of the external vs. internal classification). Given that the Muye Dono Tongji was compiled at the time of the Qing dynasty, the author of the Korean source took the classification that Huang Zongxi and Huang Baijia used for the Shaolin vs. Wudang division after the fall of the Ming Dynasty; this appeared to have been a political statment againts the ruling manchu. See Henning's Ignorance, Leyend and Taijiquan, The Chenstyle Taijiquan Journal; Martial Arts of the World: An Encyclopedia, External vs. Internal Martial Arts p. 119-122; Journal of Asian Martial Arts, "Chinese Boxing: The Internal Versus External Schools In the Light of History and Theory", Vol. 6, No. 3, 1997; Journal of Asian Martial Arts, The Origins of the Internal-External School Concept, S. Henning, M. Wells Vol 20, No 2, 2011. Tianshanwarrior 21:40, 28 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.57.212.12 (talk)
 * I would very much appreciate some editing guidance. The subject of this article may be well served by addressing each of the Boxing methods listed. IMHO this would mean 32 sub-chapters which may make the overall article unweildy and bordering on a tome. Alternately each of the Boxing methods could be addressed as a separate article though perhaps of insufficient material, say about a paragraph. Is there some function in WIKI editing that might offer a reasonable compromise between the two options? Thoughts? --Bruce W Sims (talk) 16:33, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

There are visual differences between Korean Gwonbeop & the original Chinese Quan Fa
There are visual differences between Korean Gwonbeop & the original Chinese Quan Fa.