Talk:Hägar the Horrible

Requested move

 *  Copied from WP:RM. Dragons flight 03:03, September 1, 2005 (UTC) 

Hägar the Horrible → Hägar the Hørrible - This is the character's proper name. Krun 18:21, 26 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~ 


 * Oppose. As far as I know Hägar the Horrible is the common way to write the name. – AxSkov ( ☏ ) 05:07, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Oppose. He is, as far as I am aware, always referred to as Hägar the Horrible in comic strips about him. The book about him is titled Hägar the Horrible's Viking Handbook. I haven't been able to find any reference to the spelling given by Krun outside Wikipedia. -- Naive cynic 14:41, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose. In fact, even "Hägar" is kind of counterproductive, given that that's not the name of the character or the comic strip. See Heavy metal umlaut. --Quuxplusone 23:13, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose as proposed, but move to "Hagar the Horrible" as it is in the work itself, as furrykef and Quuxplusone indicate in comments below. Jonathunder 01:25, 2005 September 7 (UTC)


 * Oppose. The logo on the official site reads 'Hägar the Horrible' but the text describing the character reads 'Hagar the Horrible' - and, IMHO, since the logo is the "brand", this should dictate the spelling, not how someone has deicided to transcribe it on the same site. (Perhaps the person could not figure out how to type the "ä" or perhaps they had "foreign character blindness" (as I like to call it) - a phenomenon that I have observed many times over in my life as a Scandinavian living in an English-based country.) Andreas Toth 01:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. Dragons flight 07:21, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

Discussion

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The official site does seem to show it as "Hägar the Horrible", although I remember reading once that the "ø" is sometimes also used for extra vikingness. (I thought there was a mention of this on heavy metal umlaut, but it's not there now.) sjorford (?!) 08:08, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

We should avoid problematic alphabets in English titles. Diacritics and such. Is it not sufficient that all these viking letters are presented ansd explained in the article text?? 217.140.193.123 08:49, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I hardly think that Latin-1 characters can be considered problematic. The vast, vast majority of readers should be able to display "ä" and "ø" with no problems. sjorford (?!) 09:02, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Question in the proposal above is about letter ø and whether it is easy to write, as it would be inb the title, thus needed for links - Thanks for your attention. 217.140.193.123 09:47, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * You'll still have Hagar the Horrible as a redirect page, so everyone should be able to access the page easily. Krun 13:58, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

This is a case were I do not disapprove of the use of funny foreign squiggles because that is precisely what they are being used for! Philip Baird Shearer 19:13, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

It is worth noting, however, that Hagar's name always appears "Hagar", without the umlaut, within the dialogue of the comic itself, even though it's trivial for the cartoonist to draw a pair of dots over the letter "A". - furrykef (Talk at me) 17:28, 5 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Yup. And the name of the strip always appears as "Hagar the Horrible," even online. I've never seen "Hägar" in print &mdash; in fact, it doesn't appear to make sense as a Norse name in the first place. We don't even have a redirect at Spın̈al Tap; why should this gratuitous umlaut be any different? :) Use the name the cartoonist uses in the strip, and the most common name known to readers. --Quuxplusone 23:13, 5 September 2005 (UTC)


 * In some versions of the Sunday strip, there is a bumper box with the title, to fill in space. It includes the accented letter. --  user:zanimum

Source material
Hi: If anyone can get his mits on Backstage at the Strips, the author of HtH provides a lot of insight into the making of his comics and the history.

Top Ten Most Sackable Cities
At the moment, there are only nine cities listed. What's the last one? Or is part of the joke that Vikings can't count?


 * As I remember, the 10th is Minsk. Vanjagenije 22:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually the 10th was Novgorod. --Auric (talk) 01:01, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Theme Music
The section about the theme music is very suspicious to me, especially as it says you can hear it by pressing your ear against a particular stone at certain times in the lunar cycle. I'll remove the entire section, and if it's accurate, it can be put back with a source...--Tiberius47 03:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Newspapers
03:12, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Simon Peter Hughes–== I think it would be appropriate to mention "The Sun" (it certainly has an impact on how British people view the comic strip) and also the mostly widely circulated newspapers in, for example, the US, Canada and Australia in which the strip appears. I can tell you that where I live, in Taiwan, the strip appears in the English language newspaper, "The China Post". However, if it really is in 1,900 newspapers around the world, I wouldn't recommend listing all of them. –   acetilcisteina--> in Spain is published in a newspaper named "Diari de Girona" with the name "Olaf el vikíng", the catalan of "Olaf the viking"

Koya?
Isn't the lawyer's name spelled "Koyer"? ("Koya" would spoil the rhyme for rhotic speakers.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.86.92.198 (talk) 21:35, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Movie
Hey everybody, is it true that Hägar the Horrible is coming 2010 in cinema? It says that Miramax Films is going to make thee movie.--84.164.101.221 (talk) 10:40, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If it is true, they must have already started on it. Does anyone know? 74.100.48.167 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC).

Danish?
It is written that he is Danish. I don't know if it is true in the original versions of Hägar in English, but in the Brazilian translations he is a norwegian viking, and sometimes he seems to be very proud of his norwegian origins.201.80.136.25 (talk) 18:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't want to change the original article but I definitely remember a cartoon where Hagar attempts to speak Italian to an Italian and is told to stop. When asked why the Italian replies: "Sure I understand Italian, and I understand Norwegian but I don't understand a Norwegian speaking Italian". To me this would clearly indicate that Hagar is Norwegian. If I can find the actual cartoon I'll scan it and link to it and change the nationality. --JimJayuu (talk) 01:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Copyright
The bulk of the Characters section seems to have been lifted wholesale from the King Features website: http://www.kingfeatures.com/features/comics/hagar/charactMaina.htm Steve McKinney (talk) 20:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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Hagar the Terrible
The paragraph about Hagar the Terrible confuses me. They changed the name from "Terrible" to "Horrible" after Browne's death? As a sign of reverence? What? How is "Horrible" better than "Terrible?" Browne created the strip and called it "Hagar the Horrible." At what point was it ever called anything else? 161.11.130.249 (talk) 14:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Hagar is Norwegian.
I have a book by Dik Browne (Hager the Horribles very nearly complete Viking Handbook) which states on page 19 that Hagar is Norwegian. I'll change it in the article though if anyone has any objections please say.--English Bobby (talk) 16:42, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


 * His Norwegian origins were also mentioned at one point in the Norwegian Beetle Bailey comic book, which has Hägar the Horrible as a guest series. The editor once wrote in his editorial that when Dik Browne was asked about which country Hägar was from, his answer was Norway. DarkPhoenix (talk) 13:42, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Isn't Hagar offensive?
I mean, doesn't it degrade the heritage of those with Scandinavian descent to make their ancestors appear as so violent and filthy? I know thats taking this comic strip quite seriously, but that wasn't the case with the jive-talking crows from Dumbo or Speedy Gonzales. 63.201.14.62 (talk) 08:57, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Eh, have you ever been to Scandinavia? It's not offensive, it's the truth. No, seriously, I'm from Sweden, and I don't care. 92.254.236.220 (talk) 18:07, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Hägar's Name in Chile
Since I'm a kid I've read the comic strips of "Olafo el vikingo" NOT "Olafo el amargado"!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.104.54.162 (talk) 04:00, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Claimed influences
The article stated that Hagar was ''heavily influenced by the work of Lucien Musset. ''.

1. The link does not exist anymore. 2. The claim is placed in the lead. 3. It is a strong claim.

In a case like this, I expect a quote either from the inventor of the strip or from reliable and independent sources, not something that has been found somewhere on the net. -- Zz (talk) 12:52, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I checked here after independently deciding this claim should be removed; I find nothing online in support of it, only content deriving from this article, and the sentence was subsequently "referenced" to the title page of one of Muset's books on Google Books. The Cornell University pdf that according to the above post was the previously cited source is not available at the Wayback Machine. I have accordingly removed the statement. Yngvadottir (talk) 05:30, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

time conflict
"It first appeared in February 1973" and "For a brief time in the late 1960s to early 1970s, the strip had its own brand of sponsored soda" doesn't fit together. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4DD4:391A:0:C9E4:6158:4D5B:22D4 (talk) 14:03, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Who is writing it?
I don't know who is writing it now (I came to this article hoping to find out), but the phrase "Chris Browne (May 1952-February 5, 2023) has continued the strip" is jarring. Does anybody now who the new writer is? Carlo (talk) 13:27, 27 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I believe they're running the backlog of already-produced strips right now, and have not announced who, if anyone, will be taking over. Tiggum (talk) 05:31, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I want to know who the third artist is going to be for Hagar the Horrible or if they plan on ending the comic strip. CrosswalkX (talk) 23:22, 18 March 2023 (UTC)