Talk:Höllental (disambiguation)

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Hölle Valley
Hölle Valley could be useful, if "Hölle" were untranslatable or the name of a River (Weser Valley, Coloradoschlucht). But in none of the "Höllental"s (correctly: "Höllentäler") is a river named "Hölle". In one is a village named Hölle, but different from "Colorado River", in which "Colorado" remained untranslated with the change from Spanish to anglophone administration, "Hölle" also as a name has the meaning of "hell", in the language of the contemporary inhabitants.--Ulamm (talk) 21:01, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Nobody would translate Côte d'Azur to Azur Cost, Costa Brava to Brava Cost, and Costa del Sol to Sol Cost, Wall Street to Rue du Wall. <<>> Just the use of that name for various valleys makes the difference from Tower Bridge: English "the tower" is French "la tour", Spanish "la torre" and German "der Turm", but in French, Spanish and German "Tower" stands for the London Tower. Thus the famous bridge in London Tower Bridge is perhaps Towerbrücke, never Turmbrücke. But if five or more valleys are called Höllental, you can't claim, that for all of them in foreign languages "Hölle" has lost its original meaning.--Ulamm (talk) 11:44, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<< >>

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Just the use of that name for various valleys makes the difference from Tower Bridge: English "the tower" is French "la tour", Spanish "la torre" and German "der Turm", but in French, Spanish and German "Tower" stands for the London Tower. Thus the famous bridge in London is perhaps Towerbrücke, never Turmbrücke. But if five or more valleys are called Höllental, you can't claim, that for all of them in foreign languages "Hölle" has lost its original meaning.--Ulamm (talk) 08:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

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Summary: It makes a difference, if in the native language a valley is named after the untranslatable name of a river, or by a translatable noun or adjective.--Ulamm (talk) 08:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Move warning
Please do not move this article from Hölle Valley (disambiguation) to Höllental (disambiguation) again without engaging in the discussion at the Project page and waiting for a consensus to be reached. --Bermicourt (talk) 11:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)