Talk:Hùng king

Âu Cơ: Chinese Immortal, Spirit, Fairy?
From what I hear in many different variations of the story, Âu Cơ was an immortal mountain fairy, heavenly spirit, Chinese immortal, etc. I suspect things get lost in translation. But I also noticed that the "Chinese immortal" word is linked to a province in China, and I'm not sure what significance that is. Yellowtailshark 08:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

King or emperor?
Was this individual a king or an emperor? See this edit. Badagnani (talk) 20:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


 * In Vietnamese: Hầu < Vương < Vua < Hoàng đế.
 * Hầu = Duke
 * Vương = King
 * Vua = King
 * Hoàng đế = Emperor
 * Hùng vương = Hùng King. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amore Mio (talk • contribs) 05:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Article deletion
I know Vietnamese government still claims they are the first kings of Vietnam. In historical textbooks, they are mentioned very little. For 12 years all I have learned in school is that they last for 18 generations. That's all. No accurate name, no date of birth, no year of death... Do these long forgotten kings really exist? I doubt it. All you have mention in the article is just legend and legend... And I never believe a foolish story like "Âu Cơ get married with Lạc Long Quân. She hatches 100 eggs to 100 sons. They are ancient Vietnamese people" like you. Well, how can they reproduce with no female, hah? I can see the one who wrote the article translated "con trai" (son) into "children" by purpose.

In short, if you cannot show the proof 'bout these "kings"' existence, I suggest that article is to be deleted. -- Livy the pixie (talk) 08:16, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I remember the number "18" generations is according to legend too. In Legend of Mountain God and Water God (Vietnamese: Sơn Tinh, Thuỷ Tinh), legend has it that Hùng Vương XVIII has a very beautiful daughter... so Vietnamese people say that there are 18 generations of Hùng Vương. I surf the web and find this. This article is written in Vietnamese language, but I know the writer can understand. For those who cannot speak Vietnamese language, the article I mentioned above revolves around the number "18" and assumes that number is just an ancient literature style from China. This theory may be true or not, but in reality there is no documentation showing how many generations they last. -- Livy the pixie (talk) 04:31, 18 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia has articles on many "legendary" figures, and the fact that not much is known about them doesn't qualify them for deletion. --dragfyre (talk 14:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

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