Talk:Hüsker Dü/Archive 1

So, this article hasn't been significantly changed in 2-1/2 years. The original lacked factual information in favor of a musical analysis; in rewriting it, I tried to balance a band biography with an explanation of the group's importance. --ESP 22:46, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Accidental sound
The sound clip "Broken Heart, Broken Home" contains a sound, I'm pretty sure it's unintentional. It sounds like the person who recorded the clip got an MSN messenger message while recording. listen here: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=HuskerDuBrokenHeartBrokenHome.ogg&wiki=en


 * There may well be a "found" sound on the song, but it's not likely to be accidental--or, if it was an accident, it's one they decided to keep because they liked it. Our Band Could Be Your Life mentions a band--Sonic Youth?--that found that they had recorded a song on tape that had previously had a fiddle band recorded on it, and you could hear the backward fiddle in the background.  They thought it sounded cool so they released it like that.


 * You probably know there was no MSN Messenger when Zen Arcade was recorded, right? I assume it's an analogy and not a hypothesis. Nareek 00:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The song I was thinking of was "Creep in the Cellar" by Butthole Surfers. Nareek 00:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


 * We're not talking about Husker Du, the band, we're talking about whoever recorded the clip of "Broken Heart, Broken Home." Precisely because MSN Messenger did not exist in 1985, it's easy to tell that the sound in question is not from the original recording. 24.124.16.165 02:47, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Revert?
I didn't understand this revert, since the edits seem kind of clean. I'm thus reverting the revert. If there's a problem with the edits, please post the reason for reverting here. --ESP 03:16, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I like it
Hi, I'd just like to say I really like this biography...especially the "Overview" that describes the band's sound. I'm not sure if the users' comments complaining about this page below are still true, but I found it an informative read. --Stuart mcmillen 11:28, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Drag Queens?

 * Re-added a ref to Mould and Hart's relationship. Circa '85, it was an uncontroversial statement around the Twin Cities. It was only later that it became a 'likely fabricated' rumor. Mould and Hart's tedentious relationship had a lot to do with their artistic split. Auto movil 17:14, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

What is the source on the info that Mould and Hart were drag queens and lovers? Mould has consistently denied the lover rumors over the years, and I've never read anything about their being drag queens except here.

No articles I have ever read have said anything about drag queens; probably just a rumor.

I'm taking it out then. Nobody's come forward to say anything except "everybody knew it back then." If everybody knew it back then, there'd be a record of it somewhere. Bcarlson33 16:49, 12 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I don't think they were drag but definitly gays : i really don't understand why it is not mentionned at all in the whole article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.65.154.53 (talk) 16:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Just awful
What a mess! This article is an example of the worst of Wikipedia: The screed about the umlauts (which used to be the FIRST paragraph of the article) is pointless, rambling, badly written, and conveys no information about the band, its music, or its influence. It might be interesting as part of heavy metal umlaut, but it really doesn't belong here. The fact that 20% of this article is devoted to this worthless paragraph is an embarrassment. It ought to be deleted.

In addition, I can't believe that the unverifiable (and likely completely fabricated) passage about drag queens was ever part of the article. Whether or not they were gay has nothing to do with the music or the band. Husker Du was not a "gay band", and Mould is still reticent to discuss it. This isn't Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Sexual orientation belongs on biography pages, not band pages.


 * Perhaps you don't know that this is WIKIpedia, not BITCHYpedia. If you have some problems with the article, fix them instead of complaining. Jeez.


 * I'm taking that stupid "cleanup" template out of the page. Every page on Wikipedia can use some work, and there's no reason to single this one out. If you feel it really needs some attention, add it to your personal TODO list. --ESP 02:37, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Tried to get the paragraph to stop arguing with itself and only offer non-assumed information. Brodo 03:25, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm glad the mess about the name was cleaned up, but I had to add that "Hüsker Dü" doesn't mean anything in Danish or Norwegian, "Husker Du" does. Were I a personal acquitance of other Wikipedians, I'd launch into a rant about Anglosaxons not caring a toss about accent marks or umlauts, but I'm not, so I'll skip that.   &mdash; J I P | Talk 17:02, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

MRR?
It boggles my mind that I have read 100 issues of MRR and not once have I read the word Husker Du. If you know this big mag then you know that there is something amiss. I guess one could say that there is a big lack of Husker coverage in this flagship zine. It is very odd, at any rate. For a Husker reference see an article I had a strong hand in:Disciples of Annihilation. They work with Jello. .--McDogm 05:54, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Influences
Is it really necessary to list every single band that's ever mentioned Husker Du as an influence? Why not just say something like "Husker Du is regarded as a major influence on modern alt-rock" and name maybe a handful of better-known bands? Bcarlson33 15:45, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree on this point. To me, music articles on Wikipedia overprioritize "influence," often to the neglect of saying just what it was the artist did in the first place to have exerted such an influence. The paragraph here is an example. Ccoll 07:39, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Again, this section is getting out of hand. We don't need to hear about every single instance of a band covering a Husker song or making a Husker reference. 216.204.15.82 22:32, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

"Changes...Should Be Discussed"
Bcarlson33 writes; "Husker was not a hardcore punk band in any sense past 1983. Changes like this should be discussed in talk first." I agree with the change (back), but not with the comment. It seems like the Wikipedia way to discuss a minor change is to make it--if people don't like it they'll change it back. And they did, rightly.

I wasn't sure that Husker Du should be in the hardcore punk category as well--after consulting (and getting sucked into editing) the "hardcore punk" article, I guess Land Speed Record qualifies. Nareek 18:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I guess I didn't consider it to be a minor edit- the narrative of the Huskers' story is that they spent some time playing hardcore and punk music, but managed to forge an original sound from elements of hardcore, punk and a number of other styles. To categorize them as hardcore punk was, to me, less accurate than the generic "rock" category when looking at their career as a whole.Bcarlson33 22:16, 13 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I think you were absolutely right to change it back. But you yourself labeled the change back with an "m" for minor (which, actually, I probably wouldn't have done--it does seem nontrivial). I do think Wikipedia would get bogged down if every change of that magnitude went to discussion first.


 * I meant that the change to hardcore was worth discussing- the revert back to the previous category was minor, since it was already in place. Bcarlson33 15:43, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of discussion, is it time to archive some of the old discussion here? If people are talking about an old version of the article and their criticisms don't really apply anymore, then having the comments at the top of the Talk page is unhelpful. I'd do it but perhaps someone with a better sense of the page's history would make a better cutoff.... Nareek 23:26, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Husker Du should be listed both under the hardcore punk and alternative rock categories. WesleyDodds 07:41, 20 January 2006 (UTC)


 * In my view, the band predated the "alternative rock" category, which came from the major labels with Nirvana's success. "Alternative rock" has not lasted as a term so it wouldn't make sense to associate with them. College rock or indie rock make more sense to me. Some research into how contemporary reviews categorized admittedly no-longer-hardcore stuff like Zen Arcade would probably help. They may still have been called punk rock. Ccoll 15:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, Husker Du are widely considered, along with the Replacements, with bridging the evolutional gap between punk and alternative. And "alternative rock" has been in use since the 80's.  Alternative rock didn't start with Nirvana.  WesleyDodds 10:25, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

''i never heard this music called "alternative" in the 80s. it was 'college music' or 'underground music'. 'alternative' is a major label creation.'' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 19:57, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Does WP have a postpunk category? It's not worth starting one just for one band, but it's the most apt description of Husker and others in that time and style that I've come across. Bcarlson33 15:43, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is: Post-punk. I agree with you first that post-punk is more apt than alternative rock but also second that plain old "rock" is the best, because it will be the most lasting term and therefore probably most encyclopedic. At least "post-punk" is a somewhat meaningful word, unlike "alternative". But maybe the best solution is to throw all the categories on the page, so that the band can be found under any genre a user might be searching for them? Maybe the band's uncategorizability should be addressed in the article. It's one of the reasons they're so important. Ccoll 18:33, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Husker Du is already listed on the list of post-punk artists, but keep in mind that the article on Post-punk is largely in reference to British bands like Joy Division, Gang of Four, The Cure, and the Fall, who tend to have a generally-similar sound. WesleyDodds 10:25, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Personnel
ld I took out the section as it didn't add any info that wasn't in the lead. Nareek 00:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)r du

NPOV
Husker Du... someone was correct in stating they are both punk and alternative. I must say there is a total lack of real information about this powerfull trio here. My suggestion to all of you who have commented in this discussion is listen to the music. You will notice Grant's vocals v/s Bob's. This is a band of uncanny versatility. Husker Du is both alternative and punk and should be recognised in both catagories as true pioneers of originality. They are without a doubt the most underated band of the punk era. So... let,s get the facts straight then tell the story the way it should be told. Let's show some well deserved respect to Grant Hart and Bob Mould.(this entry was unsigned)
 * This belongs in a different section of the talk page, but whatever. I'd question how they're the most underrated band of the punk era- reviewers were falling over themselves to blubber on about how great the Huskers were, and they were one of SST's best-selling bands. Also, while I'm sure your intention was to cheer on a band you like, isn't using phrases like "listen to the music" and "get the facts straight" is a little condescending? I've "listened to the music" for going on 25 years, I think I have a good sense of what they sound like. So do lots of others here. Nobody's failing to "show respect to Grant Hart and Bob Mould." Bcarlson33 12:59, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

The reason this article doesn't go on and on about how great Husker Du is is because Wikipedia has a policy of taking a neutral point of view. Nareek 15:39, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm removing the tag as it seems a piddling point and I can't see anything POV in the article. Plus it's over a year oldTicklemygrits 10:59, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Infobox picture
When I created the infobox I merely used the image already on the page as a placeholder. However, this image is too large and distorts the box. Can someone add a smaller picture of the band for the infobox and move the promo photos farther down in the article? WesleyDodds 00:02, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I previewed the page without the band images, but I don't think the size of the band photo is a problem - the little contents box is pretty tall and would negate any impact decreasing the image size would have.


 * The infobox picture might be a little big. But it's more that there are 2 pictures, which seems unnecessary. They don't look much different in the second one.Ccoll 05:16, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's basically what I'm saying. The picture is too huge for an infobox.  WesleyDodds 13:07, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Infobox photo(s)
I was the one who posted/uploaded those promo photos. I actually fused them into one image, so even though it's two pictures, it's one file.

I went ahead and cleaned it up. This good? L1759

Unsourced factoid and quote.
I removed the following line from the article:
 * Mould also responded to fan Julian Nasti's suggestion that "...the band get back together for a gig in Hunters Hill Bowling Club Carpark" as "...insane and not the words of a man who values his life." Therefore it is reasonable to conjecture that Mould has no intention of reforming Husker Du any time this side of hell freezing over.

It looked like a prank or vandalism to me. There was no source for the quote, the fan's name is unnotable (it's probably the name of whoever did the edit), and the line was folded in front of an external link to a Bob Mould blog entry about the Mould/Hart performance at the Karl Mueller benefit. In any case, not AGF, and very uncool. If there's any truth to this instance/quote, provide proof before posting any old bullshit. --Cjmarsicano 04:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Pronounciation
How do you pronounce their band name? I've heard it pronounced in a Joan Rivers clip with the band on YouTube as Hoo-s-ker Doo.
 * The U's in Hüsker Dü is prounounced like the U's in you. --80.202.211.5 15:21, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Someone hates breathing
ok you johnny come latelys who know jack squat about emo or husker du here's the deal. it is six songs on zen arcade. no more no less. something i learned today, broken home broken heart, chartered trips, pride, the biggest lie, whatever. let me explain Pride first. to begin with it makes use of octave chords. in the context of this chaotic and violent sounding song Pride becomes the blueprint for seminal hardcore emo bands like Heroin and Mohinder. many people like to just say that Pride is hardcore. well if you listen to Husker Du's seminal hardcore album Land Speed Record youd know this coouldnt be further from the truth. just like other songs on Zen Arcade like Something I Learned Today. some people just dont get it. they probably dont even own Land Speed Record. sure there are some similarities to hardcore but that doesnt mean it is. dont you understand the point of the origin of emo? it was a reaction to hardcore in a way that no other form of music has ever been. Where do you think the seminal emo band Embrace came from? hardcore. thats what emo was about. does that mean Embrace was hardcore? of course it doesnt. but some poeple cant seem to grasp that about zen arcade. so Pride is the only emo song on there that makes use of octave chords so thats out of the way. Dreams Recurring also uses octave chords but that song isnt emo. its more prog-rock. so anyways back to the five remaining emo songs on zen arcade. the most important common characteristic that makes them emo are the vocals. at times mould actually sounds like he is crying. thats it. thats the big mystery. remind you of a seminal emo band? this is the single most important style of emo. vocals that sound like crying. which of course brings us to what he's singing about. crying himself to sleep at night because his parents fight. are you starting to get it? then of course theres the music. like i said. listen to land speed record then listen to zen arcade. one of these albums is not like the other. 216.16.193.253 04:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

"Also, many people credit Zen Arcade to be the first form of emo, even before Embrace and Rites of Spring."

Huh?

"Many people credit Zen Arcade to be the first form of emo."

Um...

"Zen Arcade...emo."

Does the preceding conversational tone seem illogical, stupid, ridiculous? Well, so does the opening sentence. What kind of asshole compares Zen Arcade, or Hüsker Dü in general, to emo? I'm removing this based on grounds of general ignorance and fallacy, and I hope whatever deity the person that added this little wish/hope/dream believes in has mercy on their fucking soul. Dudewhiterussian 06:11, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I have absolutely no emotional investment in emo, but I was curious if it was true that "many people" credit HD with being the founders of emo.


 * Led by former members of renowned hardcore bands, Embrace and Rites of Spring left behind the macho buzzsaw guitars and mosh pits to pursue something more complex. The bands got their inspiration from Husker Du’s LP, “Zen Arcade,” which showed punks everywhere that caustic guitars and literate, angst-ridden lyrics equaled catharsis (and not sissy music).


 * In a relatively brief career that saw no hit singles or gold records, Husker Du left an indelible mark, having a great impact on subsequent rock trends, including grunge, alternative, and emo.


 * Emo, a music genre that's short for "emotional hardcore" started with bands like Husker Du, Rites of Spring, and Embrace.


 * Also informing the music were early non-DC indie bands like Husker Du and The Descendants, who produced agressive punk-informed music with subtle complexities and personal lyrics; early emo borrowed some cues from these bands. Husker Du (from Minnesota) in particular left a mark with its extremely influential 1984 release, Zen Arcade, pointing a possible new direction for hardcore to go.

That's just from the first page of a Google "emo husker du" search. Like it or not, there does seem to be a sense out there that Husker Du and Zen Arcade had something to do with the rise of emo. Nareek 10:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

, 216.16.193.253, maybe you were too busy writing odd rants on Wikipedia talk pages to notice, but the narrator of "Broken Home, Broken Heart" is not the one who's "crying himself to sleep at night because his parents fight." The lyrics are "your parents fight, you don't know who's wrong or right, have to cry yourself to sleep at night." The distinction between "you" and "I" is subtle, perhaps, but sort of important, since it contradicts your entire argument. Maybe - just maybe - you should reconsider calling us "johnny come latelys who know jack squat about emo or husker du" - especially those of us who can tell the difference between "you" and "I". Love, Bcarlson33 00:47, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Alright, so they had one song that was sad and introspective. Don't a lot of bands? Nothing about their style or asthetic would suggest any relationship to the emo genre. Hmmm. 71.111.112.58 20:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

With regards to the quotes about Husker Du and emo, you need citations or it doesn't belong in Wikipedia. "Many people credit Zen Arcade to be the first form of emo." - Who? If you don't have any examples this statement should be tagged or deleted. Conversely, if you DO have several cited examples there's no reason to keep arguing about whether Husker Du is emo or not - you're just stating that some people believe so. There's no argument here. Wikipedia articles are not the place for personal opinions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.189.47.45 (talk) 02:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

"Like it or not, there does seem to be a sense out there that Husker Du and Zen Arcade had something to do with the rise of emo" - ok, but if you're going to write that in the article you need to back it up with actual citations.(i.e., "____ suggests that Husker Du was an early influence on emo" - and then you cite the source) Otherwise it does not belong in Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.189.47.45 (talk • contribs) 02:16, 4 September 2007

I deleted the line in reference to emo a month or two ago. It's total bullshit. Emo (emotional hardcore) was a music scene that centered around Washington, DC in the late 80s-early 90s involving bands such as Embrace and Rites of Spring (members of which went on to form Fugazi, which is also called emo but isn't, even though they were from DC in the late 80s-early 90s. There will be a test about this, so take notes. :) ), then was recycled later in the mid 90s to refer to a scene involving bands centered around the midwest such as The Promise Ring. Then, it was recycled once again and currently means very little and is basically used to refer to anything meatheaded Dave Matthews Band date rapists think is "like, totally for pussies, brah". Every band with introspective lyrics is not "emo". Are The Beatles emo too? Emo is a completely useless term for all purposes except to refer to the original DC bands and the later midwestern bands. It doesn't exist anymore, and really never did except to differentiate bands with introspective, intelligent lyrics from bands with tired "fuck Reagan, fuck the cops, scene unity" lyrics within the same style of music. 66.25.130.250 (talk) 07:23, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Sound on cd vs. record
I noticed there was sort of a disclaimer on the Flip Your Wig article about the sound of the records vs. the compact discs (which have yet to be remastered, if they ever will be . . .). I added this same disclaimer to all of their SST releases (since to me their two Warner albums have very good sound quality in comparison). The change I made on the Zen Arcade version was reverted, so I thought maybe we could all decide of what significance this issue is, records vs. non-remastered cds. I own most of their catalog on both cd and record, and I can tell a marked difference in quality in favor of records, especially on their early albums up to Zen Arcade; they sound much better on record. --piper108 23:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I added the original note on Flip Your Wig. I could see a case for it not being encyclopedic, but it's debatable. The issue is about the Hüsker Dü archive's accessiblity to the average music listener. And the SST CDs really are markedly weaker than the LPs (I wouldn't, by the way, say that about Everything Falls Apart--that was a Rhino release with bonus tracks, archival information, and, I thought, a decent remastering). I would hate to think new generations of potential fans are judging those albums by the available CDs. If the SST story is discussed anywhere in Wikipedia, maybe it should be linked to these album pages. Ccoll 05:55, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

If you want to make an argument for the sonic inferiority of SST's Husker Du CDs, Wikipedia is not the place to do it. Subjective opinions are not encyclopedic - period. I agree that the sound quality of these CDs is fairly poor, but an encyclopedia article is not the same thing as a product review. If you have examples of another writer (or writers) stating that the sound quality of these CDs is inferior, you could cite these examples and state, "Some have argued that..." etc. Unless there is an objective way of determining the "quality" of the analog-to-digital transfer - and the determination has been made by someone other than the author, duly cited - you're just giving a subjective impression, which doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.189.47.45 (talk) 01:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

post-punk
lmfao at vh1. statues was the only post-punk song husker du ever recorded and it was making fun of it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.16.193.253 (talk) 04:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

It no longer says anything about the band's gayness in the article
Removed because of being irrelevant?--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 07:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess it didn't fit in the article. 80.202.211.236 16:41, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * References to homosexuality are removed from most Wikipedia articles over time, because most people don't want to see them. See the Little Richard article, for example.  It's a form of gradual censorship.  65.190.89.154 (talk) 01:45, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Logo
Could anyone upload the Hüsker Dü-logo here? 80.202.211.236 14:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Homosexuals
Why is there no references to their homosexual relationship?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.192.172 (talk) 21:46, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Both Hart and Mould have denied this, so i don't see why it should say anything about their "homosexual relationship". 80.203.123.166 —Preceding comment was added at 20:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation
How do you pronounce Hüsker Dü? I think there should be something in the article about this. 23:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It's "Hoosker Doo". WesleyDodds (talk) 05:04, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

In popular culture

 * Moved from mainspace by CloudNine (talk) 23:37, 20 January 2008 (UTC). Essentially its a trivia section, more suited to an album or band member article.


 * Towards the end of the film Krush Groove, Rick Rubin can be seen DJing in a Husker Du shirt.
 * Dennis Cooper's novel Try contains many references to, and lines from, New Day Rising.
 * The inside cover of the Minutemen's double album Double Nickels On The Dime says "Take That Hüskers!" in the lower right corner. This was placed there to tease Hüsker Dü, who were about to release their own double album, Zen Arcade, around the same time.
 * Firehose's 1987 album If'n features a photo of bassist Mike Watt's apartment wall, on which an enlarged photograph of Hüsker Dü can be clearly seen. The Hüskers are credited on the back cover as "cover models".
 * The Replacements, who had a friendly rivalry with the Hüskers, had a 1981 song called "Somethin' To Dü" from their album Sorry Ma, Forgot to Take Out the Trash. Liner notes stated, "A song for the Huskers, who have never taken drugs."
 * The Foo Fighters song "Times Like These" contains the line "I'm a new day rising," a reference to the Hüsker Dü album New Day Rising.
 * The Buffalo Tom song "Baby" includes the couplet "I'm hidin' your lies in/I'm diggin' 'New Day Rising.'"
 * In Wayne's World, Wayne Campbell (Mike Myers) uses the term Husker Du to describe the scent of urine (as a double-entendre, "Husker Dew").
 * The Dead Milkmen song "The Thing That Only Eats Hippies" makes reference to Hüsker Dü by telling "Bob and Greg and Grant you should beware" because the hippie eating thing now has a "sweet tooth for long hair."
 * In the movie Oxygen, Adrien Brody wears a T-shirt with "Hüsker Dü" written on it.
 * In Joe Dirt, Joe calls a firecracker a "husker du" and a "husker don't."
 * Microcosm Publishing's 2007 Zine Yearbook poster references the song 59 Times the Pain with the line "59 Times the Zine"
 * The Posies included a song titled "Grant Hart" on their Amazing Disgrace album.
 * Matt Dillon wears a Hüsker Dü t-shirt in the film Beautiful Girls
 * Andrew McCarthy has a poster for "Land Speed Record" in his bedroom in the movie Less Than Zero
 * The Blow song "Jet Ski Accidents" from their 2002 Bonus Album release on K Records contains the lyrics "Have you ever sung along to 'New Day Rising?'" as well as "Do you like Bob Mould's songs?" and "Do you like Grant Hart's songs?"
 * In the TV series Taken, as a teenager, Lisa Clarke wears a Metal Circus t-shirt and becomes best friends with Nina Toth over a love of Hüsker Dü and appreciation of Bob Mould's intensity in live performance.
 * In the Fifteen song "Middle," the narrator indicts Hüsker Dü for selling out: "I heard a song once it was by Hüsker Dü/They tried to sell their songs for a million dollars/They probably never knew that they kept one scared kid alive/They traded gold for what they had inside."
 * In the film D3: The Mighty Ducks, the character Fulton Reed can be seen wearing a Hüsker Dü shirt.

Power pop
Shouldn't the term "power pop" be used in the article, in relation to this group? Badagnani (talk) 03:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)