Talk:H2 (American TV channel)

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This article should be moved to H2 (TV channel), which is currently a redirect to here with just one line in the page history.  nagual  design   01:18, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ per WP:Be bold. Seems uncontroversial.  nagual  design   01:34, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

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Requested move 13 February 2019

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Page moved TonyBallioni (talk) 04:22, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

H2 (TV network) → History2 – A&E began rolling out the "History2" rebrand, but is it too early to change this article's title? Also, is it "History2" (without a space) or "History 2" (with a space)? JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 11:09, 13 February 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. Iffy★Chat -- 15:28, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Move to "H2 (TV channel)". First source only indicated that the Latin America channel is being rebranded to History 2 (with the space). As this could be only a market move like Disney India launched Disney International channel and replaced Disney XD with Marvel HQ channel. No other Disney market has followed their move. Second, "TV network" disambiguation tag would be reserved for broadcast networks or groups of cable/satellite channels per WP:NC-BC. Restating the example of BET to the current situation: "Disney and Hearsts (corporations) owns Viacom Media Networks (joint venture LLC) which operates History (network) which provides its flagship channel History and sister channels such as History en Español, Military History and H2/History 2." Spshu (talk) 14:35, 13 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Ping here – Netoholic is the one who focuses on the "TV network" vs. "TV channel" issue the most, so they should take a look at this one... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:02, 20 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Looking at https://www.aenetworks.com/brands/h2 and the international versions linked from there, I'd say this still uses "H2" as a brand almost exclusively. Its most often described as a "partner channel" to History, so it does not seem like a network on its own. Therefore, I'd suggest Move to H2 (TV channel) and covert it to more of a WP:DABCONCEPT, giving a brief rundown of each international version (start date, broadcast services, etc.). A related problem seems to be Viceland (U.S. TV channel). That channel took over H2's slot, but it s fundamentally brand new. I think a split is in order, moving the History International and H2 content to H2 (U.S. TV channel) and editing to note it as a defunct channel, and keeping the newer Viceland channel content to its own page. -- Netoholic @  09:28, 21 February 2019 (UTC)   Added:  Ugh.  So I found a ton of removed U.S channel content in the history of this page (example. This page has been transformed in a way which it shouldn't have.  Therefore I recommend move to H2 (U.S. TV channel) and restore that content to address the above. Probably with a edit history split so that newer changes can be kept at this title as a DABCONCEPT. -- Netoholic @  09:37, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I think I'll have to agree with you this time. However, I feel there should be a guideline here in the English Wikipedia that clearly defines whether a case of channel relaunch is 'a simple rebrand' or 'closing down an old one, and launching a new one'. There's a case of the U.S. version of Discovery Kids, which was relaunched as The Hub in 2010, before it became Discovery Family. By the way, I'd like to use [company name] as a disambiguation suffix to indicate that the name is a brand of television channel and/or programming block (for example, H2 (A&E Networks) and Spike (Viacom)). But is it not preferred by Wikipedia (therefore having to use H2 (TV channel) and Spike (TV channel))? Anyway, I want someone to close this discussion early. JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 14:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll support move to H2 (U.S. TV channel), as per Netoholic. Seems like the closest "fit" to the correct title in this case. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:43, 21 February 2019 (UTC)


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