Talk:HCard

the version of the hCard article that this comment is about
These comments are based upon this version -- the most recent version [the " " version] -- of the hCard article.

what footnote [5] says
Currently [the wikitext for] the "ref" tag for footnote number "[5]" (along with the footnote itself -- shown here ["also"] as a footnote, at the end) says:"."

list of "suggestions" for [thinking about] what the name of the "fn" field means
My first comment is about the list inside footnote [5] -- (which is d above) -- that includes these "examples": and (and maybe even too ... although that comes before the "[...] but one might think of it as [...]" part [of that footnote], and it is not enclosed in double "quote" marks...).
 * friendly name

Perhaps that list could stand some improvement.

One idea: delete [the list entry for] the term "family name"
For one thing, it seems [to me] that the term "family name" would go better with [the surname] "Doe", which is the second half of the character string "Joe Doe" (which is the field value [or is it the "display text"?] for the " " 'property' -- that is, the entry whose wikitext says: " ").

Since that property or "entry" seems to be the only topic that is being explained (or discussed) by footnote number "[5]", perhaps the term "family name" should be removed altogether from the list in footnote number "[5]".

The surname "Doe" is not the topic that is being explained (or discussed) by footnote number "[5]". (It is only half of it ... the second half.) If that' were to change, then ... that would be a different story.

Another idea: add [a list entry for] the term "full name"
The name "Joe Doe" (which seems to be the entire field value of the "fn" 'property') does sound [to me] like something that might go well with the 'field name' or term << " " >>.

Just my 0.02. YMMV.

Any Comments?
--Mike Schwartz (talk) 02:13, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

more info from that (authoritative) microformats.org web site
FWIW, I have some comments about these 3 URLs:
 * 1) http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Property_List
 * 2) http://microformats.org/wiki/rfc-2426
 * 3) http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard

While I was editing this "Talk:" page, to use a  template [instance] at the end of this section, I happened to look at the web pages shown in the above "3 item" list.

The first web page [URL] there is mentioned in footnote number "[5]" of the article, which is quoted above ... both d in the "what_footnote_&#x5B;5&#x5D;_says" subsection, and ... it also has a "ref" tag (it's also shown as an actual footnote, there).

What footnote number "[5]" says, may still be true; but item "#1" in the above list has a link to item "#2", and item "#2" has a link to "#3", ... and I clicked on those, in that order; and ... it turns out, that "#3" in the above list seems to have ["!"] the info that -- footnote [5] says -- "#1" does not have.

In particular, [the web page indicated by] entry "#3" in the above list, -- in the Properties section -- says this:
 * fn - name, formatted/full. required

To me, that suggests that the little "list" of ways to "think about" [the "meaning" of] should include [only] these two list items:
 * the name of the 'property' (or "class") ***  ***


 * "formatted name"
 * "full name"

(right?)

In fact, maybe it (footnote no. [5] in the article) should also include a mention of a link to ... the last URL -- http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard -- shown in the above "3 item" list. (right?)

Maybe even with a  ["fragment" identifier], to point directly to the Properties section of that web page. (The part about " " is just about the first thing, right near the top of the "Properties" section of that web page.)

--Mike Schwartz (talk) 19:12, 23 July 2019 (UTC)