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ARTIST/EVENT	VENUE	CITY/STATE	             EVENT DATE	GROSS SALES	ATTEND. CAPAC. SHOWS SELL- OUTS             TICKET PRICES	            PROMOTER

Michael Jackson Wembley Stadium London, UK. July 12, 15 & 17 1997  $9,236,683       212,601/216,000      3         0         $50.36/$47.05/$41.28/$22.09 Barry Clayman Concerts

Michael Jackson Don Vallley Stadium Sheffield, England July 9 1997     $1,991,600      43,031/48,000         1         0          $50.40/$44.94               Barry Clayman Concerts/Harvey Goldsmith Entertainments/Danny Belesh

Source: Billboard http://books.google.com/books?id=3QkEAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&lr=&hl=es&rview=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

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Some aditional, according Billboard edition 16 Ago 1997, the 3 concerts at Wembley was: GROSS SALES	ATTEND. CAPAC. $10,046,001 	213,500

Source: http://books.google.com/books?id=2gkEAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&lr=&hl=es&rview=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

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The HIStory tour 1997: Total Gross: $83,514,126. Total Attendance: 2,035,189. 40 Shows. 17 Sellouts. 50,880 attendance per show

ARTIST/EVENT	VENUE	CITY/STATE	EVENT DATE	GROSS SALES	ATTEND. CAPAC. SHOWS	SELL- OUTS	TICKET PRICES	PROMOTER

Michael Jackson 	Wembley Stadium 	London, UK. July 12, 15 & 17 1997 	$10,046,001 	213,500	216,000	3	2	$90.25 $51.00 	Mama Concerts & Rau

Michael Jackson 	RDS Stadium 	Dublin, Ire. July 19, 1997 	$1,740,203 	43,261	43,261	1	1	$50.25 $41.25 	Aiken Promotions

Michael Jackson 	St. Jakob Stadium 	Basel, Switz. July 25, 1997 	$2,317,881 	50,000	50,000	1	1	$46.35 	Good News Prods.

Michael Jackson 	Roger Herman Stadium 	Nice, France 	July 27, 1997 	$1,083,898 	30,003	36,260	1	0	$59.12 $50.68 $34.63 	Inter Concerts

Michael Jackson 	Olympic Stadium 	Berlin, Ger. Aug. 1, 1997 	$2,934,036 	78,187	78,187	1	1	$42.20 $38.15 $35.26 	Mama Concerts & Rau

Michael Jackson 	Fest Wiese 	Leipzig, Ger. Aug. 3, 1997 	$2,110,035 	54,483	55,000	1	0	$38.73 	Mama Concerts & Rau

Michael Jackson 	The Ring 	Hockenheim, Ger. Aug. 10, 1997 	$3,261,701 	85,000	85,000	1	1	$46.24 $45.66 $38.73 	Mama Concerts & Rau

Michael Jackson 	Parken Stadium 	Copenhagen, Den. Aug. 14, 1997 	$2,681,644 	47,402	47,402	1	1	$93.08 $70.00 $62.31 	ET Promotions

Michael Jackson 	Ullevi Stadium 	Gothenberg, Sweden 	Aug. 16, 1997 	$2,202,073 	50,000	50,000	1	1	$44.04 	Tomas Johannssen

Michael Jackson 	Valle Hoven Stadium 	Oslo, Norway 	Aug. 19, 1997 	$1,646,889 	37,904	40,000	1	0	$65.70 $42.80 	Gunnar Eide AS ET Promotions

Michael Jackson 	Song Festival Ground 	Tallin, Estonia 	Aug. 22, 1997 	$2,627,174 	75,000	75,000	1	1	$42.52 $38.27 $34.72 	ET Promotions WW Edge Prods.

Michael Jackson 	Olympic Stadium 	Helsinki, Finland 	Aug. 24, 26, 1997 	$4,166,735 	91,106	96,000	2	0	$45.74 	Thomas Johannsson

Michael Jackson 	Parken Stadium 	Copenhagen, Denmark 	Aug. 29, 1997 	$2,614,933 	50,161	50,161	1	1	$86.43 $65.00 $57.86 	ET Promotions

Michael Jackson 	Hippodrome Wellington 	Ostende, Belgium 	Sept. 3, 1997 	$2,550,000 	65,000	65,000	1	1	$41.89 $39.19 $0.00 	Make It Happen

Michael Jackson 	Football Stadium 	Valladolid, Spain 	Sept. 6, 1997 	$1,625,806 	36,000	36,000	1	1	$45.16 $0.00 $0.00 	Pino Sagliocco

Michael Jackson 	Green Point Stadium 	Cape Town, South Africa 	Oct. 4, 6, 1997 	$2,092,625 	73,295	74,000	2	0	$68.48 $15.65 $0.00 	BIG Concerts

Michael Jackson 	JHB Stadium 	Johannesburg, South Africa 	Oct. 10, 12, 1997 	$3,747,560 	106,495	108,000	2	0	$68.48 $15.65 $0.00 	BIG Concerts

Michael Jackson 	Kingspark Stadium 	Durban, South Africa 	Oct. 15, 1997 	$1,493,047 	45,000	45,000	1	1	$68.48 $15.65 $0.00 	BIG Concerts

~Letor~

I have the next "numbers" about the the HIStory world tour:

First Part Grossed: $80,002,629. Total Attendance: 1,953,207. 42 Shows. 31 Sellouts. average per concert: 46,504 peoples average per concert: $1,904,824

Second Part Grossed: $83,514,126. Total Attendance: 2,035,189. 40 Shows. 17 Sellouts. average per concert: 50,879 peoples average per concert: $2,087,853

TOTAL: Grossed: $163,516,755. Total Attendance: 3,988,396. 82 Shows. 48 Sellouts. average per concert: 48,638 peoples average per concert: $1,994,106

Source: Amusement Business

~Letor~

The HIStory Tour's Achievements
I've read from various sources that this tour holds the record for attendance, with 4.5 million fans attending 82 concerts, that's an average of 54,878 fans per concert. It beat's his previous record's for Dangerous (50,724) & Bad (35,772).

But I don't know how much this tour grossed. The Bad Tour grossed $125 million when it ended in January of 1989. All proceeds from the Dangerous were supposed to have went to charity, but there's no official gross on that one either.

Lip syncing & Trivia
I have undone the stuff about lip syncing and the trivia about the Brunei concert. Thank you to who ever wrote the passage, but it is not needed here. The lip syncing was never criticized while Michael was on tour- there is not one review I have seen that mentioned it once. If you can find me a reference to prove me wrong, by all means, please do so. The tour has been criticized by fans in recent years, and not by those who saw the show. It's unencyclopaedic and doesn't need to be mentioned here unless it was a widely reported thing, which it was not. Please do not put back in without references. Also the Earth song comments are lovely by obviously biased. Thank you. Marnifrances 05:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I put in some citation needed tags in the Trivia section. I don't know where the Laryngitis rumour comes from, but it seems dubious to just claim these things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.162.202 (talk) 02:18, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Televised concert section
This section is not needed at all. Nothing is cited from appropriate sources, and it is heavy fan-based material. Highly encyclopaedic. 92.12.61.195 (talk) 17:50, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I think this section needs to be removed as soon as possible. It is taking up lots of space in an article which is already quite long. Do we really need separate setlists for every single televised performance? No, especially since many of these setlists are the same. Likewise, do we really need all the little details about what jacket MJ wore, or whether he sang live for a couple of seconds during the first song? No. This is fan-based, wasting space, and much too encyclopaedic. Sylvestermccoyfan7 (talk) 13:05, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

HIStory Royal Concert / Brunei segment
who is the idiot that deleted the Brunei Concert segment of the article and the whole article, HIStory Royal Concert. whoever it was is a t**t and a wan**r

Cancelled Concerts
What is the source of this section? for this, it's ok because tickets were on sale in Ljubljana but it was cancelled..and we remember the death of Lady Di August 31, 1997: Ostend, Belgium; Resheduled for September 3, 1997(Due to the Death of Princess Diana)

but what about Barcelona, Palermo and Tunis? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.0.61.246 (talk) 09:43, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

There were rumors at the time that the Tour was gonna start in Morocco before Prague, then the concert was cancelled.. but this is not enough to put it in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.0.61.246 (talk) 09:46, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

The article now
This article is getting out of hand. It is packed with fan research. Same to the Dangerous World Tour article.

The Brunei performance does not need to be in an article about the HIStory Tour. Maybe one or two sentences, but that's it. It should be moved to his concert tours page. We also don't need information about what TV channels aired what, and what type of bootleg recordings there are. Also, the information about what audio/video concerts are available are not needed in an encyclopaedia.

I don't know why a few edits that try to resolve these are reverted??

LowSelfEstidle (talk) 15:57, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Royale Brunei Concert
The Songs was planned Give In To Me,In The Closet,Who Is It,Dangerous,Dirty Diana,Workin'Day and Night,Will You Be There and Remember The Time for the Concert.And The Earth Song was not performed with the cherry picker part!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.50.38.87 (talk) 17:20, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Audience attendace figures.
Nowadays it is very difficult to give proven and accurate information about the audience attendance figures during the History tour.

I please you not to write attendance figures into this article, because I have seen many different numbers and I am of the opinion that the attendance numbers should be therefore excluded.

Lassoboy (talk) 08:29, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Y.E.S

I added rehearsal dates
I added rehearsal dates to all Michael Jackson concert pages available. If you find any new ones insert them in. :) - NiceHat3786 NiceHat3786 (talk) 03:14, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Correction of Tour Date Information
Dear Editors of the HIStory World Tour,

I hope this message finds you well. I recently reviewed the information related to the HIStory World Tour and came across a minor error, particularly in the section detailing the tour dates. I would like to propose a correction to ensure the accuracy of our records. In the tour dates section, it is mentioned that Michael Jackson visited "Taiwan" during his Asian tour. While he did indeed perform there, it is important to note that, according to the general consensus of the international community, Taiwan is not an independent country. Therefore, I suggest amending "Taiwan" to "People's Republic of China" to accurately reflect this fact. I understand that many sources on the internet may refer to Taiwan due to their focus on the performance location rather than geopolitical issues. Additionally, given certain Western influences attempting to divide China, some malicious media outlets may intentionally refer to Taiwan as an independent country. However, as a free and open wiki website, we have a responsibility to ensure the accuracy of information and inform people that Michael Jackson visited what is officially recognized as Chinese Taiwan. I can provide numerous reputable sources, including official statements from the United States government and relevant United Nations documents, to support the assertion that Taiwan is an integral part of China. These sources explicitly state that Taiwan is a province of China. I appreciate your dedicated work and hope that this suggestion will help ensure the accuracy of our tour information. If further discussion or assistance is needed, please do not hesitate to contact me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masonjams (talk • contribs) 06:48, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * He did perform in Taiwan though, and there are multiple sources that say that "he performed in Taiwan", like these sources here, here and here. HorrorLover555 (talk) 07:27, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Proposal; map of locations
Would something like this be more concise?