Talk:HK Magazine

Problem when using Wikipedia
I don't know why after I login, edit the page and save, it always log me out and don't have my login name in the history. This happened twice already.

From 0101YIPnw

I have the same problem too. I don't know if i was log in or not if i saw 0101WUhy on the top but I lost my names in the history. This happened twice as well.

From 0101WUhy

About the founder of HK Magazine
In fact, I looked into the background of the magazine and i am wondering the founder of this magazine. Where can we find it? Memorandum & Articles of Association or Statutory Declaration? Or it is not an important fact to put into an encyclopedia?

0101WUhy

about distribution
Is it really about 80000 copies every week according to the July-December 2004 audit?

Because I read about it, but it has only written down "79, 683 copies (July-December 2004 Audit)". It seems the number do not mean per week.

0101YIPnw

I read an online source. It says "an audited circulation of 45,000 and a weekly readership of 150,000". I am not sure it is a correct or reliable source. It is on the http://www.relationshipnetwork.com/hkmag_home.html, click "more about HK Magazine" at the bottom

0101YUNGyy

Thanks! I think this is reliable.

0101YIPnw

Concerning the Content and the Pictures
I guess the "Content" of the HK magazine is too much focused on several issues, and the pictures also. I think we should use examples with more variations and the "content" should be more general. Besides, what's the standard with the use of pictures? I think the 1991 one is good because it is remarkable for the magazine's early publications, and the one entitled "recent photo" is also good for it shows the the magazine's general aim and targeted reader. By the way, I also change the description of this picture, as i guess it is not recent.

0101PUNy

Actually, the whole impression of our article is now just like a scatter of houses on a large area of grassland. I agree PUNy that the "content" should be more general. That means we should reconsider wheather to reconstruct the "content". It can be classified into a few groups in terms of the nature of things. For example, dish, nightlife and film can cluster into a category say "entertainment". Will it be better?

0101WUhy

about the articles
I have seen there are about 15 articles uploaded. That's good to have some articles,but I am afraid that may cause plagiarism....

Also, some articles do not have the date. Would it be better to delete the one without dates so that the rest would not look too clumsy?

0101YIPnw

Yes. It looks clumsy and imbalance so we should consider weather to put such a long list of articles. Besides, other problem also exists. Do we need to include “contact” or “editors and directors” in our article? It seems a bit like brochure-style, instead of a writing style for an encyclopedia. In fact, we can include the registered office in the History part and then delete the “contact” part. As for the “editors and directors”, in my opinion, they are facts, but they are facts that are ever-changing. Today's directors will not be tomorrow's directors. What is the significance to put them in our article? Looking into the history, there are changes in directors on 30th August, 2002, 17th August, 2002, 26th June, 2000, 7th April, 1999, 18th February, 1998, 1st April, 1997, 20th March, 1996, 17th May, 1995, 5th January, 1994, 10th May, 1990, 9th May, 1990 and 24th February, 1989, and even resignation of director on 1st April, 1997, 17th May, 1995 and 28th February, 1989. Will it be reasonable if we put all the history into the encyclopaedia we are creating? I doubt. I hope all of us think of this seriously, or our article will be jeopardized.

0101WUhy

Re: plagiarism I don't think there's a problem because it's just an external link, ie. we are just giving the source of the article, not copying the article onto our site. It should be quite clear to the readers that both sources (the website that hosts the article and HK Mag) are cited.

Re: editors I think it is useful information. If you worry that it would be confusing, you can specify that this is the current editorial team. For past editors or directors, if you think they're relevant enough (eg. famous) you may want to put in that information on our page as well.

0101NGmk

I think it would be better adding the articles' link into the reference list as it is still using other website's resourse. I also think that cut it shorter is better, because it seems too many. I think 4-5 articles is already enough.

For the contact part, it sounds a bit strange if the registered office is added to the history. And I think giving a contact can help readers to contact with HK Magazine since they may not familiar with HK Magazine.

0101YIPnw

about "See also" and "other HK Magazine
It seems that this 2 links do not have information about HK Magazine, is there any uses of this 2 links?

Also, is it necessary to put "Other HK Magazine"? it seems irrelevant to our topic.

0101YIPnw

Concerning our writing style
Should we describe "Asia City Publishing Group" as "one of the 'pionerring' free-distribution publications in South East Asia" in the part of Publisher? Should we employ this writing style? It seems the wordings are copied from somewhere.

0101WUhy

Well, better to delete the word "pionerring" because it seems not being neutral point of view.

0101YIPnw

About the "Other HK magazines" part
I don't understand why should we have this part and why choose these three magazines to put under this part.

0101YUNGyy

Agreed. They're really irrelevant and there's already an 'HK magazines' link.

0101NGmk

0101YIPnw 11:49, 12 October 2005 (UTC) I think these magazine are irrelevant our topic too.

And also the 2 links at "See also" seems not having information about HK Magazine, is there any uses of this 2 links?

0101YIPnw

HK Magazine Group Members

 * Images are used to supplement your wiki entry, not dominate
 * focusing on "City Living” – do not abuse quotation marks, only use it to when quoting someone
 * See more comments on WebCT discussion section 0101TA 17:03, 14 October 2005 (UTC)


 * "City Living" is a quote of the magazine's category from the Asia City Publishing Group's website.
 * I also think that there are too many pictures which are not very remarkable.
 * I believe there should be consistency in the picture footnotes, should there be issue date? It looks very messy for different styles.

0101PUNy 8:45PM, 15 October 2005

Various Comments on HK Magazine
I've look at the linked website, there is only one comment, should it be considered as "various". Besides, can it represent the general comments of readers?

0101PUNy 9:11PM, 15 October 2005

Magazine Website
I deleted the link http://www.hannahkeeley.com/magazine.html because it has nothing to do with the HK magazine that we're working on.

Make images smaller
please make your HK magazine cover image smaller, right now it gets in the way of the text. 0101TA 01:23, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I think we should remove the photos except the first one because it's really unnecessary to put repetitive or non-representative photos up there... 0101NGmk

Deleting Style
I deleted this part because a lot of what covered is redundant and overlaps with the contents part. 0101NGmk

Health & Beauty Guide
Is there more information on this one? There's no description but just a photo. Is it really a supplement? Is it published annually? what are the contents? --0101NGmk 08:28, 20 October 2005 (UTC) 0101NGmk

American Language?
Why is it called an 'American Language' magazine? It's an ENGLISH LANGUAGE magazine. There's no such thing as an American language, unless you mean Native Indian tongue, or 'American English Dictionary'.

It's English. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.218.44.8 (talk) 18:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC)