Talk:HMAS Ardent (P 87)

Disposal of Ex HMAS Ardent (P87)
In 1998 HMAS Ardent was declared surplus to training requirements and subsequently transferred to Darwin at the request of the then Administrator of the Northern Territory, Mr Neil Conn. The plan was to preserve her at the Northern Territory Museum in Fannie Bay as a memorial to the Attack Class patrol boats that had served in Darwin and to the two sailors who were lost in HMAS Arrow during Cyclone Tracy on Christmas Day 1974.

The idea was greeted with indifference by the then County Liberal Party Government, on the grounds of costs for relocation, and the ship remained laid up at Darwin Naval Base for a number of years. Ex HMAS Ardent was subsequently declared for disposal and in 2002 the ship was demilitarised and sold to Singapore interests for use as a fishing boat. Her ultimate fate remains unknown. 23Feb76 (talk) 09:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Do you have any sources (news articles, websites, etc) that could be used to back this up if it were added to the article? -- saberwyn 22:24, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * According to [Current Indonesian Navy ships], HMAS Ardent is now the KRI Tenggiri. No idea what that page's source is, though. Myk (talk) 04:57, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

HMAS Ardent = KRI Tenggiri?
Per the last comment in the above section and the photo added here today, does anyone know how we could prove/disprove with reliable sources that Ardent and Tenggiri are the same vessel? The only cited claim in List of current ships of the Indonesian Navy is to match the Indonesian pennant number to the Indonesian name, and this is to a Blogspot blog. -- saberwyn 08:48, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I checked my local university's Jane's database a few days ago and couldn't find any articles mentioning this ship. The vessel is not listed in the 15th edition of Combat Fleets of the World, so if this acquisition occurred, it was in or after 2007. -- saberwyn 04:20, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Not in the 2008 edition of Jane's Fighting Ships, either. -- saberwyn 11:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * With no further commentary since August and my lack of success in finding sources to verify or deny this claim, I am also removing the image (File:KRI Tenggiri.jpg) from the article.
 * As an aside, the guide training manual for the Australian National Maritime Museum's patrol boat, HMAS Advance, claims that Ardent was "sold to Britton Marine in 2001 for $150,000; sold to a private company in Singapore and sailed from Darwin to Singapore under its own power where it had a minor refit to convert toa pleasure boat and is currently being used as a pleasure craft in Asia." although this is not a citable source under Wikipedia guidelines. -- saberwyn 01:55, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Checked the 2012-13 edition of Jane's, no mention of a ship of this name being in active service, or having been in active service during the previous 3 years. So if she was active, it would have been between 2008 and 2010 only. -- saberwyn 11:44, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Numerous references on the Indonesian Navy web site to KRI Tenggiri with the number 865 as recent as December 2013. An article from the Bali Post from 2003: "menambah lagi dua Kapal Perang Republik Indonesia (KRI) yakni KRI Layang (805) dan KRI Tenggiri ... Sedangkan KRI Tenggiri merupakan kapal eks MV Ardent Australia" ("added two warships of the Republic of Indonesia (KRI) KRI Layang (805) and KRI Tenggiri ... KRI Tenggiri ex MV Ardent Australia") Calling it MV Ardent suggests it was bought from civilian service. Weyer's Warships of the World, Volume 66 (2005) lists Tenggiri as ex-Ardent. 203.9.185.136 (talk) 02:33, 17 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Reliable, published sources! Thank you :) Very unusual that sources like Jane's Fighting Ships make zero mention of this vessel. -- saberwyn 12:32, 17 January 2014 (UTC)