Talk:HMAS Jervis Bay (AKR 45)

Merger
I am propsing the merging of the articles HMAS Jervis Bay (AKR 45) and HSC SpeedOne, as they are about an identical vessel. Most of the articles are identical, dealing with Jervis Bay's military service in East Timor, which is significantly more notable than its later service as a cross-Channel ferry. The civillian service can be added to the end of the article, and if events of the ship's career as a civillian ferry reach a point where a seperate article is required, they can be split out again. -- saberwyn 03:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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Merge proposal (again)
I am re-proposing a merge of the articles HMAS Jervis Bay (AKR 45) and HSC SpeedOne. They were previously merged in November 2007, but was undone in June 2008.

The reasons I give for merging are the same as before: the ships are the same hull, there is significant duplication between the two articles, and I do not think that the individual service histories are so long and complicated that a separate article detailing that service is required. -- saberwyn 22:11, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I'd Support a merger, but question whether the proposal is in the right direction. Her civil career is far longer than her naval career. Is there a rule that says Navy ships get precedence over Merchant ships for article titles? Mjroots (talk) 06:36, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that a ship article should be at the name she is best known for (see Naming conventions (ships), and would argue that her service as part of INTERFET plus being the first catamaran in military service would make her better known than her civilian career as a ferry in either Australia or Europe. That said, if there the consensus develops that a different name from the ship's history should be used, I'd roll with it.
 * That said, what would the best article name be? HSC SpeedOne seems the obvious alternate as it has an article and was the name most recently used, but Incat 045 (construction name), Tascat (Australian service), and Winner (Italian service) are also options. -- saberwyn 07:10, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I would oppose a merger, for the same reasons as here. A change from civilian to military use constitutes significantly different careers, and separate pages makes things clearer. Xyl 54 (talk) 05:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)