Talk:HMCS Algonquin (DDG 283)

Battle Honours
The official website (http://www.marine.forces.gc.ca/algonquin/about/ship_about_e.asp?category=12) says:

BATTLE HONOURS WORN WITH PRIDE WITH THE PRESENT HMCS ALGONQUIN
 * Norway 1944
 * Normandy 1944
 * Artic 1944-1945

So it would seem that Canadian ships perpetuate the battle honours awarded to ships of the same name. This would be reasonable since the Army does about the same with perpetuating CEF battle honours. If correct, these should be added back in. J Costello 14:04, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


 * There being no other opinion/information on the matter, I'm going to reinsert the battle honours.J Costello 19:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

DDG or DDH 283
I raised this at Talk:CFB Esquimalt but should have asked here instead. The official web page for the Algonquin refers to her as DDG 283. I have changed the name of this article to match that, but there are various places where she is DDH 283. Which is correct? -- KenWalker | Talk 16:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Forgive this rather poor editing. I am not used to working with wiki. To Answer your Question it is DDG. DDH was probably assumed by Frigates being FFH or else a simple Typo with H being next to G || MS Bloggins|| 142.179.101.212 (talk) 14:38, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Copyediting
Some, but not all of the edits/points/observations I have noted are listed below:

Wrote the months in full. Put ships' names in italics.

I don't really understand why this article has a 'Command Team' section. Having looked, this 'feature' seems to be peculiar to Canadian ships. Surely it will have to be regularly up-dated as the names will change (see line below). Why is the 'Timeline' so detailed, (which also makes it extremely long)? e.g. A typical pair of entries read: "2007, June 30: Vancouver", or "Cmdr Xxx assumes command". What does it mean and is the 'Vancouver' mentioned in the first example, the city or the ship? Its even got: "2007, San Diego (cancelled)". If 'San Diego' was cancelled, why include the entry?

And to have the article tagged as a stub...please, it was over 16k! There can be only one answer; it's a copy-and-paste-job. I get the feeling that a serving or ex-member of the crew has decided that the Alonquin would have a larger article than any other ship in the Canadian Navy.

I would say that some of the information in the 'Timeline' could be condensed to a few lines of prose; I'm pretty sure that the MoS says somthing on those lines. The whole article should be about a third of its present length. What do other editors think?

RASAM (talk) 17:01, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

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copyedit Nov 2016
Impressed with the work on this article since the last major copyedits in March 2012 and January 2016. Here's a summary of my changes: A good read! I'll keep it on my watchlist for a couple weeks and will try to be available for any questions or follow-up. Reidgreg (talk) 20:09, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * expanded/defined acronyms (RCN, RFP, MIL-STDS, SCM, SQA, VLS, CIWS, SAWIS) and linked some of them
 * removed serial commas for consistency (they were only used 33% of the time)
 * commented-out the "honours" listed in the infobox which appear to be for the V-class destroyer of the same name
 * disambiguated Davie and MIL-Davie shipyards
 * a bit of grammar, wikifying, and edits for clarity and conciseness


 * Like Army units, naval vessels in the RCN carry the honours won by ships of the same name, if the ship in continuing on the name. It's not really all that important though and really should be on the ship index page. Llammakey (talk) 20:42, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, that makes sense. I've restored them.  Thanks for the explanation!  I'm guessing the Arabian Sea honour was Operation Apollo.  Algonquin served there March 23 – October 14, 2002, and received the honour 2014, if you'd like to add the appropriate year. Reidgreg (talk) 21:17, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem. I only learned of it myself doing the exact same thing! Llammakey (talk) 23:13, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

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