Talk:HMS Royal Sovereign (1891)

Possible pic
http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/hms-royal-sovereign-off-malta-25947

Artist died 1917--05:00, 7 July 2011 User:Geni
 * I've uploaded it to Commons. Rod. 06:49, 7 July 2011 User:Rcbutcher
 * The copyright on the painting may have expired - but you uploaded a photograph of the painting, and the copyright on that belongs to the National Museum of the Royal Navy Portsmouth (see ). The photograph has been digitally watermarked to help the copyright owners enforce the copyright (see ).--Toddy1 (talk) 08:01, 7 July 2011 (UTC)


 * See, which says "Images and data related to the images may be reproduced for non-commercial research and private study purposes. However, for ALL other uses, you need to actively obtain further consent from the contributing collection."--Toddy1 (talk) 08:04, 7 July 2011 (UTC)


 * They can make whatever claims they like. Enforcing them though well Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp..©Geni 16:04, 7 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Geni is correct. A simple photograph of a 2-dimensional object which is already in the public domain, cannot be copyrighted. Read the text of commons:template:PD-Art. Claims of non-existent copyright should be ignored as they are dishonest. Rcbutcher (talk) 01:36, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

A lengthy refit in 1903–1904 and one (1) year later reduced to reserve?
And another few years after that broken up? Isn't that astonishing and should be explained in the article or was that kind of normal, back in the day? --84.190.201.130 (talk) 18:08, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * She was functionally obsolete by the date of her refit, but the Admiralty was unwilling to acknowledge that until Admiral Jacky Fisher became 1st Sea Lord in 1905 and purged the RN of its obsolete ships to cut its costs.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:53, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Very interesting, thank You very much! --84.190.201.130 (talk) 00:19, 21 October 2021 (UTC)