Talk:HMS Temeraire (1798)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) 01:31, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll start this is a day or so.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria Nicely done. Only a few niggles to resolve.
 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
 * Place of publication would be nice. Need ISBN or OCLC #, publisher, year for Warwick. Standardize cites for books with multiple authors.
 * Added and standardised.
 * Added and standardised.


 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. References to sources:
 * B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * Do we know why Nelson requested specifically Temeraire?
 * Willis, from whom the information comes' does not specify ("It is reported that Barham asked Nelson which officers he wanted to accompany him, flourishing a Navy List and telling him to take his pick. Nelson is said to have replied, 'Choose yourself, my lord, the same spirit actuates the whole profession; you cannot choose wrong.' That seems to have been only a gesture, however, for Nelson then sat down and carefully selected the ships that he most wanted to take with him, dictating them to Barham's secretary. One of them, personally selected by Nelson, was the Temeraire." (Willis, p. 181)) Willis earlier concludes that Harvey was the sort of man Nelson would have liked, which may have been one reason. We also know Nelson wanted big powerful ships to lead his lines, and as one of the largest and newest second rates Temeraire would have been attractive for this reason. She was also available, in the Channel at this time, and so could be quickly summoned, have any necessary work done quickly in a Channel dockyard, and then be moved to the blockade off Cadiz. Timing was important for Nelson as he wanted his force in position and ready before the combined fleet could escape again. A third and perhaps more minor point, Temeraire was serving as a private ship, and required no displacement of an admiral. This is to say nothing of any reputation that she may have already had for the quality of her crew and/or officers. Temeraire was therefore a logical choice, but unfortunately this is noted stated in any source, and is just my own OR, interesting as it is. All we know from Willis is simply the fact Nelson specifically requested her for his fleet.
 * Thanks for your informative answer; I hadn't even thought about anything other than if Harvey and Nelson were friends, but you offer several other good reasons. Pity that nobody could provide a definitive answer.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:17, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * B. Focused:
 * Do we know why Nelson requested specifically Temeraire?
 * Willis, from whom the information comes' does not specify ("It is reported that Barham asked Nelson which officers he wanted to accompany him, flourishing a Navy List and telling him to take his pick. Nelson is said to have replied, 'Choose yourself, my lord, the same spirit actuates the whole profession; you cannot choose wrong.' That seems to have been only a gesture, however, for Nelson then sat down and carefully selected the ships that he most wanted to take with him, dictating them to Barham's secretary. One of them, personally selected by Nelson, was the Temeraire." (Willis, p. 181)) Willis earlier concludes that Harvey was the sort of man Nelson would have liked, which may have been one reason. We also know Nelson wanted big powerful ships to lead his lines, and as one of the largest and newest second rates Temeraire would have been attractive for this reason. She was also available, in the Channel at this time, and so could be quickly summoned, have any necessary work done quickly in a Channel dockyard, and then be moved to the blockade off Cadiz. Timing was important for Nelson as he wanted his force in position and ready before the combined fleet could escape again. A third and perhaps more minor point, Temeraire was serving as a private ship, and required no displacement of an admiral. This is to say nothing of any reputation that she may have already had for the quality of her crew and/or officers. Temeraire was therefore a logical choice, but unfortunately this is noted stated in any source, and is just my own OR, interesting as it is. All we know from Willis is simply the fact Nelson specifically requested her for his fleet.
 * Thanks for your informative answer; I hadn't even thought about anything other than if Harvey and Nelson were friends, but you offer several other good reasons. Pity that nobody could provide a definitive answer.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:17, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
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