Talk:HOK (firm)/Archive 1

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Surely a page on a design firm needs criticism, as well as praise. Otherwise it reads as though it was written by one of the firm's directors! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.56.187 (talk) 18:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Am I the only one that noticed that many of the edits come from the same IP address as their headquarters? This is probably maintined by someone there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.192.13.24 (talk) 02:32, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

"As of 2013, HOK is the largest U.S.-based architecture-engineering firm"

Per the source, this is true in that it is the largest "AE" firm, but kind of misleading because AECOM is also, "AE" just listed as "EA" so simply a question of categorization rather than actual superlatives... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.39.233 (talk) 01:35, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

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Proposed changes to the introduction
Hello! This is my first edit request on Wikipedia. I'm Katie, a communications contact at HOK. My financial conflict of interest has been disclosed on my user page. I will also include a reminder of my conflict of interest in future posts.

•Remove the first sentence of the second paragraph: "As of 2018, HOK is the largest U.S.-based architecture-engineering firm and the fourth-largest interior design firm."
 * What I think should be changed (include citations): I would like to make the following changes to the introduction of the HOK (firm) page:

•Update 24 offices to 26 offices in the next sentence.

•Add the following sentence at the end of the paragraph: "The firm was recognized by TIME Magazine as one of the world's most influential companies of 2022." •For the first and third change, we are looking to remove superlatives from the page that may go out of date each year, but would like to note the firm's work in architecture and design.
 * Why it should be changed:

•For the second change, HOK has since opened additional offices throughout the U.S. I've added source material below that references the 26 offices.

See references cited below.
 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

KatieatHOK (talk) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Reply 13-OCT-2023
Regards, Spintendo  23:22, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) ✅ The first sentence of the second paragraph was removed.
 * 2) ❌ The number of offices was omitted. Wikipedia is WP:NOTADIRECTORY of maintained offices.
 * 3) ❌ The TIME magazine claim was not added, as their "Worlds Most Influential Companies" is not independently notable in Wikipedia.


 * Thanks so much for taking the time to review and implement the change. I will have another request posted soon if you are interested in reviewing that as well. KatieatHOK (talk) 19:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Proposed changes to the Leadership section
Hello! This is Katie again, a communications contact at HOK. My financial conflict of interest is disclosed on my user page. I will include a reminder of my conflict of interest in future posts. I am updating the information provided in my previous request with Wikilinks and updated citations. I'm happy to make any changes needed to the citations. Thank you!


 * What I think should be changed (include citations): I would like to update the Leadership section to the following text below to reflect HOK's current leadership:

In 2023, Eli Hoisington and Susan Klumpp Williams became co-CEOs of HOK. They are the youngest and first female CEOs in HOK’s history. Carl Galioto serves as HOK’s president.

Hoisington and Klumpp Williams succeeded Bill Hellmuth, founder George Hellmuth’s nephew, who was president of the firm from 2004 to 2016 and CEO from 2016 until his passing in 2023. Prior to Bill Hellmuth, Patrick MacLeamy, FAIA, served as HOK’s CEO from 2003 to 2016, and chairman since 2012. MacLeamy succeeded HOK Chairman Bill Valentine when he retired after 50 years with the firm.


 * Why it should be changed: HOK's leadership has changed since the passing of Bill Hellmuth earlier this year. The text above represents HOK's new leadership, as well as its recent history that's included in the text currently on HOK's Wikipedia page.


 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): Please see references cited below.

KatieatHOK (talk) 15:11, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Reply 26-OCT-2023

 * 1) If there are any Wikilinks for the individuals proposed to be added in these two paragraphs that would be great.
 * 2) The citation template you're proposing to use is incomplete. You've failed to include a title of these references, and as a result, it's causing the Citation without a title of any form CSI error message to be generated. The references cannot be added to the article in this form.
 * 3) Kindly rewrite your edit request so that the CS1 errors are corrected and that any and all Wikilinks for these individuals are emplaced within your requested text. When ready to proceed, kindly change the edit request template to read from answer yes to no. Regards, Spintendo  23:39, 26 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you Spintendo! I am making the updates now and will change the edit request template shortly. KatieatHOK (talk) 15:35, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Spintendo  01:01, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Removing reference to HOK offices at Metropolitan Square Building
Hello! This is Katie, a communications contact at HOK. My financial conflict of interest has been disclosed on my user page. I'll include a reminder of my conflict of interest in future posts, too.


 * What I think should be changed: Remove "- Current location of HOK St. Louis office" from the bulleted item "1981: Metropolitan Square, St. Louis, Missouri, United States" under the Selected projects section. This reference to offices should also be removed from the caption on the image of One Metropolitan Square next to the Selected projects section.
 * Why it should be changed: HOK no longer has offices in the One Metropolitan Square building.
 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

KatieatHOK (talk) 20:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

✅ Spintendo  03:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Proposed changes to the Innovation and sustainable design section
Hello! This is Katie, a communications contact at HOK. My financial conflict of interest is disclosed on my user page. I will include a reminder of my conflict of interest in future posts. Thanks in advance for reviewing this request!


 * What I think should be changed (include citations): I am recommending that the sentences below be added at the beginning of the second paragraph of the Innovation and sustainable design section:

"Sustainable design is a key discipline served by HOK. Professionals in the firm authored a resource book on the topic, "The HOK Guidebook to Sustainable Design," originally published in 2000 by Wiley. A second edition of the book was published in 2005. "


 * Why it should be changed: It looks like this reference to the HOK Guidebook to Sustainable Design was removed from the Innovation and sustainable design section. This is an important milestone in HOK's history working in sustainable design.


 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): Please see the reference cited below.

KatieatHOK (talk) 22:36, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

✅ The Mendler/Odell publication was added to the article. Regards, Spintendo  03:50, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Spintendo! KatieatHOK (talk) 15:12, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Changes to Selected Projects listing
Hello! This is Katie again, a communications contact at HOK. My financial conflict of interest is disclosed on my user page. I will include a reminder of my conflict of interest in future posts.


 * What I think should be changed: I would like to request some changes on the existing Selected Projects listing to show completed projects. Could you please remove the following projects below?
 * Bulleted list item 2019: FC Barcelona New Palau Blaugrana Arena, Barcelona, Spain
 * Bulleted list item 2020: Spire London Skyscraper, London, England

Also, could you please change the year listed on "2018: LaGuardia Airport Central Terminal B, Queens, New York (Phase 1)" to 2020, and the year listed on "2021: UPMC Vision and Rehabilitation Hospital at UPMC Mercy, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States" to 2023?

KatieatHOK (talk) 20:52, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Why it should be changed: The first two bulleted listing for FC Barcelona and the Spire London Skyscraper projects were not built. The LaGuardia Airport Central Terminal B project opened in 2020, and the UPMC Vision and Rehabilitation Hospital opened in 2023. I have included citations for LaGuardia and UPMC below.
 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):


 * I believe we would require a reliable source for removing "FC Barcelona New Palau Blaugrana Arena, Barcelona, Spain" as it is still published on the HOK's official website and talks about it. WPXI source is broken. Spire London has HOK listed on their article and . Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 18:59, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Proposed Additions to the Selected Projects listing
Hello! This is Katie again, a communications contact at HOK. My financial conflict of interest is disclosed on my user page. I will include a reminder of my conflict of interest in future posts.

• 2021: Stanford University School of Medicine Center for Academic Medicine, Palo Alto, California, United States
 * What I think should be changed: I would like to add the following projects to HOK's selected projects list:

• 2022: St. Louis CITY SC CITYPARK Stadium, St. Louis, Missouri

• 2022: Boston Consulting Group Canadian Headquarters, Toronto, Ontario, Canada These are major projects that HOK completed in 2021 and 2022 and reflect our latest designs.
 * Why it should be changed:

Please see references cited above.
 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

KatieatHOK (talk) 15:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @KatieatHOK, Citations seem good, so happy to do this. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 06:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks @MatthewDalhousie, I appreciate it! KatieatHOK (talk) 19:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC)