Talk:HP Sauce/Archive 1

Brown sauce redirect?
Why does brown sauce redirect here? Can we create a separate brown sauce article, detailing the ingredients common to all brands? -- Martpol, 21 Mar 2005


 * I agree. The culinary importance of brown sauce can not be underestimated.  Two Halves, who is very serious about his brown sauce!!!


 * Definately. Brown sauce needs an article, and this can refer to it. Failing all else, this should be renamed Brown Sauce and HP sauce become a redirect. Let that be a terrible warning to spur creative condiment-writers on. Skittle 23:21, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I just noticed a bottle in our cupboard says made by Danone with no mention of Heinz anywhere (UK). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.42.206.26 (talk) 18:46, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I removed the reference to HP Sauce being from Australia because A) it isn't and B) it looked really really stupid especially when the next paragraph discussed its being invented in England. How can it be Australian when it was invented in England?!? colchar 12:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.113.137.234 (talk)

Sang what?
The article currently reads in part:
 * For many years the description on the label was in both English and French . During a 1960s BBC radio broadcast Marty Feldman sang the French version in the style of Jacques Brel.

Sang the french version of... the label? That can't be right. What does that mean? &mdash; mendel &#9742; 19:59, August 16, 2005 (UTC)


 * He sang the French version of the description on the label. Andy Mabbett 21:28, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Hp logo.gif
Boilerplate automated warning by bot removed from this page, fair use rationale addressed. Fourohfour 11:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
I've just reverted back to a previous version as the page was vandalised.

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BetacommandBot 05:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Someone please take a photo of the factory before it is too late
Is it too late already? --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 21:01, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Turns out it is too late
 * http://www.brownsauce.org/2007/09/20/documenting-the-fall-of-the-birmingham-hp-factory/
 * The only option now is persuade someone who took a photograph to donate it to the commons (see Requesting copyright permission) --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 07:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Not true - now that a 'free' version cannot be created, we can use any old picture of it and claim fair use. Even the restrictive wikipedia image policy allows this. Modest Genius talk 16:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Manufacturing location?
My current bottle of this fine sauce says on the side of it "Made in Spain for HP Foods". This doesn't sit with the "made in Elst" quotes in the main article. Larkim (talk) 17:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

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why say hot or cold savoury food rather than savoury good?
why the mention of "hot or cold" in the introduction. what other types of food are there? Suggest add: "not preferred on foods that are so unbelievably hot or cold as to cause damage to the lips, mouth and throat area when digested." —Preceding unsigned comment added by CptLightning (talk • contribs) 20:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Harry Palmer
Was the Harry Palmer thing a joke as to the source of the initials ? I'm talking about Yahoo Answers, where it lists what it purports to be Wikipedia text. Yahoo Answers - origin of HP Sauce name

[quote] The original recipe for HP Sauce was invented and developed by Harry Palmer, from whom the initials "H. P." derive. It was first known as "Harry Palmer's Famous Epsom Sauce". Palmer, an avid gambler at the Epsom races, was forced to sell the recipe (to cover his debts) to F.G. Garton, a grocer from Nottingham. F.G. Garton's Sauce Manufacturing began to market HP Sauce in 1903. Garton called the sauce HP partly due to its local reputation, but also because he had heard that a restaurant in the Houses of Parliament had begun serving it (indeed, bottle labels today carry a picture of the Palace of Westminster). Garton sold the recipe and HP brand for the sum of £150 and the settlement of some unpaid bills to Edwin Samson Moore............ [unquote] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.88.11.64 (talk) 14:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)


 * (There is no evidence in the sauce's official history to support the claim that the name comes from the initials of a Mr Harry Palmer, a gambling addict who sold his recipe for "Harry Palmer's Famous Epsom Sauce" to cover his debts.) http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2010/may/04/hp-sauce (Msrasnw (talk) 16:57, 22 December 2014 (UTC))

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Is there an image required tag hidden on this talk page anywhere? This page coming up on requested photographs page. WillDow (Talk) 15:00, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


 * see above. – ukexpat (talk) 15:31, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Differences between HP, 57 and A1
Someone in the know should state the differences between HP sauce and what Americans know as A1. 70.197.131.250 (talk) 23:59, 5 October 2015 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  01:59, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * For the purposes of the article, we would need reliable sources that we could cite. As my own opinion, the closest thing that we have to HP sauce is Lea and Perrins steak sauce. Tamarind is what gives them their similar flavor profile. I don't think A1 is all that close to HP in comparison.