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Requested move 2 May 2016

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 12:20, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson → Hafthór Júlíus Björnsson – There is no letter [ þ ] in the English language or on the keyboard. Article title should be in English letters, as per WP:TITLE, and WP:ENGLISH, and WP:UE. Request move protection. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:21, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose no rule on en.wp against using Icelandic þ, if it is to be banned requires wider discussion. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:58, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * See WP:UE - Boneyard90 (talk) 21:07, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The fact that there is no letter [ þ ] in English is irrelevant. This is an Icelandic name, not an English one. We aren't moving Sauli Niinistö to Sauli Niinisto just because English lacks the letter [ ö ]. J I P  &#124; Talk 20:44, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * How do you pronounce 坂本 龍馬? Is it relevant that these symbols are not in the English alphabet? Of course it's relevant. That's why the article is under Sakamoto Ryōma. - Boneyard90 (talk) 21:06, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * That's an altogether different writing system, not just different letters. You are extrapolating too far. J I P  &#124; Talk 21:14, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Your example fails. See WP:ENGLISH. Note the section Modified Letters. - Boneyard90 (talk) 21:09, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * If I don't know how to pronounce [ þ ], if I've never seen it, then how can I possibly know where to look for the word, or how to spell it? The letter [ þ ] is as alien to me as [ 龍 ] is to you. - Boneyard90 (talk) 21:18, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Finnish doesn't use the letter [ þ ] either. I'm not a native Icelandic speaker, in fact I hardly understand the language. That didn't stop me from learning how the letter is pronounced. Still, your Japanese counterexample is taking things too far, as Japanese doesn't even use the same writing system. J I P  &#124; Talk 21:22, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I randomly clicked on a "List of Icelandic ..." article, List of Icelandic writers, and it is full of names such as Þórbergur Þórðarson. Clearly, if you want to banish þ and ð from article names you need to start an WP:RFC so the whole community can discuss the issue. BabelStone (talk) 21:33, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * And they may all be moved. As a counter-example, I offer Thorfinn Karlsefni, in which two discussions kept it there as opposed to using Icelndic letters. - Boneyard90 (talk) 21:42, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. You want to move the article back to Hafthór Júlíus Björnsson, but the English alphabet does not have ó, ú, í or ö. On the other hand, þ was a standard English letter until relatively recently, and is certainly part of the extended English alphabet.  The analogy with Japanese is bogus, because Japanese is a totally different script, but the Icelandic alphabet is the same writing system as English uses but with some letters like þ that are obsolete in modern English.  The impetus for my moving the article was that Game of Thrones (season 6) writes his name as "Hafþór" with a thorn in the credits, and if HBO can manage to write his name correctly then I think we can too. BabelStone (talk) 21:26, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * TV show credits do not replace Wikipedia policy, but if you want to look at pop culture references, then I offer Hafthor Bjornsson product line website. - Boneyard90 (talk) 21:48, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * As far as letters like ó, ú, í or ö, see WP:Diacritics. I don't know what you mean that [ þ ] "was a standard English letter until relatively recently". What is "realtively recently"? Not in the last 40 years. Not any of the 100+ year old books or manuscripts I've ever read. By comparison, I do not use the letter [ ſ ] (the Long s), as when I see the word "Congreſs" in original copies of the U.S. Constitution. So your argument of using a "recently" included letter is weak, and irrelevant to an article written in 2016. - Boneyard90 (talk) 16:23, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above - David Gerard (talk) 21:29, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment. Many arguments here seem to be debating English.  Shouldn't this be based on WP:COMMONNAME?  I see sources that use either, but some notable English language sources use "Hafþór".  WP is driven by WP:RSs.  Can we list those here, instead of our opinions?  --A D Monroe III (talk) 16:54, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. We do transliterate names from other alphabets to the Roman alphabet, but there is no need for transliteration here as the name is already in the Roman alphabet (just not the precise subset of that alphabet commonly used for English). —David Eppstein (talk) 18:07, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Per WP:UE: "Names not originally in a Latin alphabet, such as Greek, Chinese, or Russian names, must be transliterated. - Boneyard90 (talk) 18:37, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * This is in the Latin alphabet, so your point is moot. Nymf (talk) 19:47, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME in sources.-- Isaidnoway (talk)  18:27, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Unless there is an established use in English sources of the name without special characters, the whole Latin alphabet should be used, as in æ, ø, å, â, ô in other Scandinavian languages, ğ, ı in Turkish etc. etc. --T*U (talk) 18:34, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I've already offered the Hafthor Bjornsson Product site, but there is a Men's Fitness article, New York Times Article, and there are more, if you'd like me to list more. - Boneyard90 (talk) 18:43, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. An article title which cannot be typed into the search box is useless. BMK (talk) 20:12, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. As with the diacritics issue, we do not misspell people's names unless a preponderance of reliable sources do so (COMMONNAME, professional names). In response to the typing issue, that's what redirects are for: I also cannot type article titles that include n-dashes without using the "alt" key. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:20, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I've already established that common name in English-language sources favors the [th]. As far as the re-direct issue, how am I supposed to type the [th] if I don't know how the Icelandic letter is pronounced? - Boneyard90 (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Just what User:Yngvadottir said., you type whatever you think the person's name is, a redirect will take you to a page with the correct title; you learn something, everybody wins. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:03, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - I just want it noted that I have not seen any Wikipedia policies in support of the opposition. "Common name" fails, as I have demonstrated that English-language sources use [th]. This situation is analogous to the musician Prince wanting to use a symbol for his name, or J-pop bands that want to use webdings in their name. The opposing editors in this case simply favor preferential treatment of letters of this language, while dismissing Wikipedia policy. It is personal preference over policy. - Boneyard90 (talk) 20:39, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:COMMONNAME is not about spelling. And you can't compare a symbol or webdings to completely valid Latin characters. If you want to go down the anglicization route (WP:UE), sources clearly also demonstrate the use of the Icelandic spelling. Nymf (talk) 05:51, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you would point out where in the Latin alphabets I can find this letter [ þ ]? - Boneyard90 (talk) 12:54, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think you looked very closely. Latin alphabets. It's right there. Nymf (talk) 13:17, 9 May 2016 (UTC)


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Early strongman career
The article currently says that "Hafþór won several strongman contests in Iceland in 2010 including Strongest Man in Iceland, Iceland's Strongest Viking, Westfjords Viking, and five of six events at the OK Badur Strongman Championships". Now, disregarding that the source cited for the last one actually calls it "OK Budar" instead (as does this article's sidebar, FWIW), can anyone shed any light at all on this event?

The reason I'm asking is that I'm not sure it exists in the first place:


 * 1) The spelling obviously isn't Icelandic, and none of the obvious variations, e.g. "ÓK Búðar" (or "ÓK Báður") make much sense.
 * 2) There are no mentions of this event anywhere on the Internet as far as I can tell, neither in English nor in Icelandic sources, other than:
 * 3) The cited source;
 * 4) Wikipedia articles, in various languages;
 * 5) various sites reusing Wikipedia content.
 * 6) The sole cited source is also sloppily edited; for instance, Hafþór's name is misspelled as "Haffþór", and his father's height is given as "203 mm" (rather than cm), which does not inspire confidence.
 * 7) Perhaps most crucially, there is no mention of this event on timarit.is either. 2010 only saw two printed articles mentioning Hafþór, both in Morgunblaðið on June 18 2010 (here and here); both talk about him taking third place in Iceland's Strongest Man (Sterkasti maður Íslands).

Taken on their own, none of these points would mean much, but taken together they are enough to make me wonder. I am not convinced the event does not exist, IronMind is after all not just a random blog, but I would like to see some confirmation: some kind of press coverage, an announcement, a statement from an organizer/participant/volunteer, a webpage (archived or not).

If nothing else, at least it would be nice to get the name right. ;) Fönn Dögg (talk) 09:49, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Allegations
Regarding my recent reversion of the additions to the personal life section, I have created a discussion at the biographies of living persons noticeboard, see here. I stated in my edit summary that I would "restore the relevant information and sources in a short while" but I now think it is better that this be discussed here before any re-additions. Hrodvarsson (talk) 22:34, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

"Raw with Wrist Straps"
A number of records in this article, all in the deadlift family, are referred to as "raw with wrist straps."

I believe it is confusing to use the ambiguous word "raw," which admits of multiple interpretations as to what equipment is and isn't allowed depending on the regulating body (let alone from sport to sport, e.g. powerlifting where straps are never allowed even in geared competition). Would prefer a description like "no suit, no belt, with straps" (if that was in fact the configuration). JediNxf7 (talk) 01:06, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

501 kg lift
Although it certainly was in a gym, I belive it should go under the "official meet" category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kedr26 (talk • contribs) 11:09, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * There should be some reasoning behind why it should go under competitive meet. If you could join this discussion as you've edited it to be under 'competitive meet' that would be helpful. Brandon Downes (talk) 14:10, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It doesnt say "competitive meet", it says official meet. As far as i can tell it was an official meet, he was just the only competitor. Have you seen the lift ? --Kedr26 (talk) 14:13, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I have seen the lift and I'm not disputing the legitimacy of it as we saw everything weighed. However I'm just trying to get to the bottom of what we classify as a "competitive meet" or an "official meet" as this will become the precedent for lifts and records going forward. Brandon Downes (talk) 14:43, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, imho Gym Lifts are maybe smartphone recordings or claims. Like Arnold Claims to heve done a 550 benchpress but never did it in a official meet. Thats a gym lift for me. Or Halfthors 470(?) kg Twitch stream is a gym lift. But the 501 was, as far as i can tell, an official Rouge "meet" with 1 competitor. Wich happed to be in his home gym. I mean there was a scale, magnus the judge, live cameras everywhere, Rouge streamed as a official wr. attempt. Thats why i would count it as an offical meet. Not competitve but official. Arnold also won the 1971 Mr.O without competition. It's not the same thing but i hope you see my point. --Kedr26 (talk) 15:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Various terms such as "official meet" are used in these sections for strength athletes. It in essence means "In competition", which I will change it to now for clarity's sake. Hrodvarsson (talk) 23:22, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Why should we replace the 410 kg deadlift done in a Powerlifting Meet - Thor's Powerlifting Challenge 2018, listed under the Powerlifting sub header, with the 501 kg (WR) done under under Strongman Rules? This doesn't add up. We should keep these separate as per events/rules IMO. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:42, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I have no idea why that's been changed to say that and I also don't know why the edit comment says "as discussed" the discussion above is more to do with whether it should be recognised as world record not the difference between a strongman and a powerlifting 'lift'. The lift Thor did is obviously a strongman lift and he's only ever done one powerlifiting meet so I think should be reverted back. Brandon Downes (talk) 18:11, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Guys it was an official meet with just 1 participant ?!

What I'm saying is we should restore the following (green text):-

Powerlifting In competition:


 * Squat (with wraps) – 440 kg (970 lb) (Thor's Powerlifting Challenge 2018)
 * Bench press – 250 kg (551 lb) (Thor's Powerlifting Challenge 2018)
 * Deadlift – 410 kg (904 lb) (Thor's Powerlifting Challenge 2018)
 * Total – 1,100 kg (2,425 lb) (Thor's Powerlifting Challenge 2018)

Since the numbers are from the powerlifting meet. That 501 deadlift was under Strongman rules, so not relevant in that category. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:08, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * well, was the 501 not a powerlifting meet aswell? Just with 1 lift and 1 lifter Kedr26 (talk) 19:11, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Under strongman rules, so it is appropriate here and not here. Clarified here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:16, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Domestic Violence Allegations
Recently a single user with no other wiki activity added a section titled Domestic Violence Allegations. Looking at the sources, all citation come from two icelandic websites, mainly from a tabloid called DV which seems to have a history of controversial claims about abuse (see Controversy section in that article). The other is a website called Vísir.is, which I cant find out much about. Considering the severity of the allegations these sources seem inadequate to fulfill WP:BLP criteria. Help from icelandic editors who can give insight into the reliability of those sources would be appreciated. Unless there is significantly better reputable sourcing (preferably also from outside of Iceland) provided I think the section should not be re-added. jonas (talk) 22:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Vísir.is is a reliable source and is probably the largest or second largest news publication in Iceland (along with Morgunblaðið). Since 2017, it is owned by the Sýn (media corporation) that operates Vodafone in Iceland and the TV station Stöð 2 amongst others. Before that it was affiliated with the printed newspaper Fréttablaðið. The two original stories where written for Fréttablaðið (the original printed versions should be available on the archive site timarit.is) and then reposted on the Vísir.is website. The allegations have also been covered a bit in Stundin which is a investigation journalism news site and Morgunblaðið does mention his loss of sponsorship due to the allegations in 2017. The story has also been covered in the english speaking The Reykjavík Grapevine along with some other minor news publications in the country.


 * TLDR; the allegations where covered by a reliable source in Fréttablaðið (with the articles also published on their then website Vísir.is). Two other reliable sources, Stundin and Morgunblaðið, have also coveraged certain aspects of the aftermath of the allegations made in the original articles by Fréttablaðið. Alvaldi (talk) 10:15, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @Alvaldi are these sources tabloids? If so, then they might not be considered reliable sources. Readership is no indication of reliability, or The Daily Mail and The Sun would be widely cited. Solipsism 101 (talk) 20:06, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * None of the above publications practise tabloid journalism. Alvaldi (talk) 20:22, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Cleanup 2022
Discussion moved from User talk:Nir007H
 * Hi Fylindfotberserk, How come the Personal Records section of Hafthor is tagged overly detailed? It's a perfectly well researched and complete section in my eyes. All of those listed lifts are word class performances and all should be included. Nir007H (talk) 11:56, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Please go through WP:NOT and WP:EXCESSDETAIL. Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, only the most important things need to be put in a WP:BLP's section, doesn't matter whether sourced or not. We can't list each PR/WR in each event of all the years/championship. The details of all these lifts are/should be covered in the respective event articles, Similarly for gym lifts. Try by keeping only the best, for example in the case of 'Axle Deadlift', I'll only keep the Axle Deadlift (for reps) – 380 kg (838 lb) x 6 reps entry since it is from a more recent event and he used a greater amount of weight. If we try to get this article to 'Good Article' status, these things have to be taken into consideration. Editors who specialize in GA/FA articles would remove/severely truncate that section. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Fylindfotberserk, I'm working on improving Hafthor's article to comply with Wikipedia's quality standards as indicated by those template messages. Can you guide me on below points:
 * 1. Personal records - shall I summarize about 5 or 10 best ones and then link the others to a separate article tiled 'Main article: List of Personal records by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson?
 * 2. What do you mean by 'This article contains paid contributions'? Can you please advise me how to rectify this problem?
 * Trust by rectifying above 2 points we can remove these template messages which indicates issues. Please advise... Nir007H (talk) 06:50, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * Fancruft would mean trivial things as well as content written in a subjective manner. For example, the sub-section on his Tattoos and the sentence: "Hafþór and his former girlfriend Andrea Sif Jónsdóttir have spoken about his occasional sleep troubles after a heavy meal due to his body weight" - looks trivial and fancruft to me. On the other hand, Bell's palsy part is important. The personal records section requires cleanup since it is too detailed making many of the things redundant and trivial, thus going into fancruft territory. As I've explained above with the Axel Deadlift example, you can keep the best lift from a specific event.
 * Fancruft (trivial and subjective manner of writing) can be observed in the Personal life section, sentences that I'd modify, severely truncate, or remove altogether include:
 * "In an online video interview by the Mulligan Brothers published on 21 December 2019, Hafþór lamented not having seen his daughter for three years"
 * "The two met when Hafþór was in Alberta, Canada for a strongman competition and visited the bar where Henson worked. The couple garnered attention for the difference in their respective heights, as Henson is 157 cm (5 ft 2 in)"
 * Other sentences that would require copyediting:
 * "Hafþór met Icelandic strongman Magnús Ver Magnússon at his gym "Jakaból" in 2008, and Magnús said that Hafþór seemed a good prospect as a strongman" ← This one requires rewording
 * "but the troublesome ankle forced him to retire from basketball after the season, at the age of 20" ← Kind of tabloid style writing.
 * - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot. Much appreciated. Let me rectify the full article. In the meantime, please give me permission to summarize about 5 or 10 best lifts in the main page and keep a link to a separate page tiled List of Personal records by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson and move all others there. He is the most complete Strongman in history with no weaknesses in any event and it's criminal to not to leave out any of those PRs which ALL are within the top 5 performances in the world. How about naming it 'List of World Records and Feats of Strength by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson'? Nir007H (talk) 11:55, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * criminal to leave out Nir007H (talk) 11:57, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * A list article? OK. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:15, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Let me search how to create a list article. Nir007H (talk) 12:19, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Regarding this. Please keep the sources in support of the lifts that are to stay in the section. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:11, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, I will do it. Nir007H (talk) 17:12, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fylindfotberserk Hello, I have a trouble with uploading this GIF to the detailed lifts page in the very top. Could you please help?
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Heaviest_Deadlift.gif#filelinks Nir007H (talk) 04:18, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ here. Kindly maintain the chronology in the comment section, I mean your next comment should come below this one. Also do not tag your edits as 'minor' m that are major edits. See WP:MINOR. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:24, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Ok, well noted. I think the article now looks fault-free. Can you evaluate and remove those 2 issue boxes in the beginning and under the personal records section? Also, I added the references to '2018 Arnold Strongman Classic' article. If you are a person who is authorized to evaluate, can you check it too? Nir007H (talk) 14:02, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Seems fine for now, I'ved removed the tags. If someone else finds something that needs cleanup/copyedit, they can make specific corrections. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll also contribute if if anything is required to be done. Thanks for all the support. Nir007H (talk) 16:21, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Info from 2017
https://grapevine.is/news/2017/06/29/the-mountain-publishes-emails-disputing-ex-girlfriends-violence-accusations/ 2601:601:1B80:48E0:CD0E:AB27:7B0B:845B (talk) 19:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Biography
We don't now much about Hafþór's childhood and what caused him to have domestic violence allegations Hafþór also revealed in a youtube video that his dad was a cook on a boat for many years 2601:601:1B80:48E0:38E8:E662:BCD:58D0 (talk) 17:18, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Youtube
Hafþór has a YouTube channel that talks about diet aswell as boxing and strongman traning the channel has 617k subscribers and 71.5 million views as of June 25th 2022 174.253.193.240 (talk) 23:47, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Languages
I heard Hafþór speak Icelandic and English how many can he speak? 2601:601:1B80:48E0:6D4D:BD46:81EA:2868 (talk) 15:45, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Any anger issues
Does Hafþór have any anger issues I feel like this page dosent go into much detail about his anger problems because of domestic violence allegations 2601:601:1B00:8670:B91F:391F:3BE:D879 (talk) 19:51, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Confused
I am wondering why this page hasn't talked about his genetic heritage and where his grandparents come from this is shocking because I am a geanologist 174.253.195.111 (talk) 17:37, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Who is Hafþór júlíus björnsson?
Who is Hafþór? What we know is that he is a actor strongman and boxer we don't know that much about his family Hafþór has a loving family 2601:601:1B00:8670:DCC3:DBD1:75C:454 (talk) 21:39, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Youtube channel
Hafþór has a YouTube channel that talks about diet aswell as boxing and strongman traning the channel has 626k subscribers and 72.7 million views as of October 17th 2022 2601:601:1B00:8670:DCC3:DBD1:75C:454 (talk) 21:40, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Dont know if it is clickbate or not
With headlines of health concerns and steroid abuse or domestic violence. What is true and what is false? 2601:601:1B00:8670:48EA:DB1A:6809:D8A0 (talk) 21:49, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

More detail?
Where is the truth on the Paige? 2601:601:1B00:8670:B4EE:D93:C20E:4FB5 (talk) 07:06, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Height
Regarding this change. The accompanying source mentions a height of "205 cm". You changed it to "206", may I know why? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:31, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Fylindfotberserk, thanks for not simply reverting. The reason I made the change is twofold: 1. for as long as I've watched/edited this article (which, admittedly, isn't very long), it has been 206 cm, thus a sudden unexplained reduction by a centimetre seemed odd. 2. 6'9" is 205.74 cm, which is closer to 206 than 205. I don't know if there is a rounding convention on Wikipedia when it comes to body metrics, but it makes more sense to me to state that he is 206 cm tall than 205 cm. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:02, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Well, I returned after an 8 month long break, and this is one the articles I've edited regularly . Somebody made an unsourced / undiscussed change in that period. Here is the version before I left. There are sources that mention both 205 and 206, but which one to trust is the question, which is why used the one from theworldsstrongestman.com. Secondly, should we focus on cms or inches? the source uses both '205cm / 6ft 9ins'. Since Iceland uses metric system I prioritized '205 cm', while the built-in converter rounded it to 6ft 9in. All in all there was no violation of WP:OR. Yes, I forgot to explain the changes since the dateformat modification was done through a script. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Fylindfotberserk, it all sounds a bit muddled to me, so I'll leave it to your discretion :) Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 01:24, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello @Revirvlkodlaku and @Fylindfotberserk let me also join the conversation even if it's a bit too late. Theworldsstrongestman.com/ Giants Live/ IMG is not a reliable source for height and weight statistics. Their websites and live broadcasts have depicted errors throughout the years. They are also not the highest authority of the sport but one among 3-4 main federations which host strongman competitions. Strongman does not have a governing body or a federation.
 * Let me give the history on the height and the reason for the 206 vs 205 debate: When Hafthor came to the international limelight in 2010/11, his height was given in EU standards, that is in centimeters as 206. But following 1.) the Worlds strongest Man 2011, 12, 14 competitions held in US alongwith 2.) Arnold Strongman Classic competitions (which is also always held in US) plus 3.) when Hafthor further reached stardom in US with Game of Thrones (starting from 2013), Americans broadcasted the height as 6'9" in their measurement. The 205 came to the equation from 2014 onwards when everyone started to convert his height from the American standard (which was now the more popular standard due to the three factors I mentioned above). For example, they convert 6'9" to cms using google, and only take the more apparent full digit (205) and ignore the decimal places (.74 of the 205.74).
 * Moving forward, I suggest we should have uniformity (with all 5 places in the article where Hafthor's height is depicted) to indicate the same value in both 'ft & in' and 'cms'. I'll let you two senior Wikipedians decided it and hope my explanation cleared the doubt as to what the reason for 206 vs 205 is. Nir007H (talk) 13:59, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

2024 cleanup/ improvement request
Good day @Fylindfotberserk and @Revirvlkodlaku, I noticed that with the isolated and scattered edits done by various editors since Hafþór announced his retirement from boxing in October 2022, the chronological flow of the competitive career 'since then' is a bit off now. Requesting your permission to improve the article. Nir007H (talk) 12:57, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Please go ahead. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I second that, and thank you for taking the initiative on this, @Nir007H. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 13:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Dear Mentors, thank you for the green light. The suggested improvements are now done. I will also divide the 'Rogue Invitational and Shaw Classic' section into two parts and further elaborate once he competes at both competitions later this year. Taking this opportunity to thank you both for the continuous guidance and support. Nir007H (talk) 17:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC)