Talk:Hague Congress (1872)

POV issues and needed expansion
I feel that this article sounds biased in the direction of anarchists. It needs to be less subjective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.79.193.120 (talk • contribs) 17 October 2007‎


 * This article is totally POV. It gives an exclusively anarchist interpretation and references only anarchist sources. It does not even refer to the actual Congress record and other extant documents. This article should be appropriately flagged or removed. Mrwhoohoo (talk) 19:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree it needs to be expanded. It certainly should not be removed; this conferenc was a tremendously important event in political history. Click on the "What links here" link on the main page and you'll see around 600 pages linking here!

Although I agree that other points of view are needed, what is most needed is the basic facts: the dates of the conference, who was invited, what the conference was expected to do, what the conference actually did. Before this conference, the terms "communist", "Marxist", "socialist", "anarchist" seem to have been used interchangeably (but were they totally interchangeable?). After this conference, "Marxist" and "anarchist" were clearly distinct (but did both of these groups still self-identify as "socialists"?).

If anyone can answer these things, please expand the article! &mdash; Lawrence King ( talk ) 04:25, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Who writes this nonsense? "Marx, in his pamphlet The Civil War in France, believed that the major lesson from the Commune was that it was essential for the proletariat to take control of the State..." if you actually read The Civil War in France Marx wrote that: "[T]he working class cannot simply lay hold of the ready-made state machinery, and wield it for its own purposes." Nor was Bakunin expelled for disagreeing with Marx, he was expelled for organising a secret organisation within the International. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.80.132.129 (talk) 17:58, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

POV notice
As the above discussion indicates, the POV of this article is disputed. It mostly seems to use primary sources from those directly involved in the congress, which is a major issue. Neutral secondary sources (ie. preferably not a history of anarchism written by an anarchist) should be used instead.Mirkyton (talk) 06:11, 22 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Please expand upon this topic. Especially how Engels and Marx got on top of Bakunin? Wazzanonymous (talk) 04:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC)