Talk:Hailemariam Desalegn

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 12:53, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Based on this, I propose that this page be moved to "Hailemariam Desalegn", and the spelling made consistent within, with redirects from the other spellings. —&#91; Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 00:03, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Haile Mariam Desalegne → Hailemariam Desalegn – A Google search for multiple spellings of the subject's name among Ethiopian government sites (i.e. "+site:gov.et") shows:
 * 198 hits: Hailemariam Desalegn
 * 4 hits: Haile Mariam Desalegn
 * 6 hits: Hailemariam Desalegne
 * 1 hits: Haile Mariam Desalegne
 * Support move. See above. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 00:14, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support move. – Jwkozak91 (talk) 00:32, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment, I edited this, since it was not really a multiple move. The second move was simply the mirror image of the first, presumably meaning that the current title should become a redirect to the new proposed title after the move. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 16:14, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I see the following 5 changes:
 * Delete Hailemariam Desalegn
 * Move Haile Mariam Desalegne to Hailemariam Desalegn
 * Create Haile Mariam Desalegne redirect to Hailemariam Desalegn
 * Create Hailemariam Desalegne redirect to Hailemariam Desalegn
 * Edit Haile Mariam Desalegn to redirect to Hailemariam Desalegn
 * —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 06:25, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Referred to by given name
This article repeatedly refers to the subject as what appears to be his given name, "Haile Mariam", instead of his surname, "Desalegn", contradictory to normal WP style. Is there a culturally-specific reason for this, or should that be fixed at the same time as the rename? —&#91; Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 04:47, 22 August 2012 (UTC)


 * There is a culturally specific reason. For an Ethiopian name, the second name is not a surname, but rather the father's name.  So, Desalegn is Hailemariam's father. Sometimes a third name is added, the grandfather's name, but there is no single family surname passed down several generations. This is covered in the MOS for Ethiopian topics, and also the prime minister should correctly default indexed under H, not D (if that ever comes up).  Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 13:09, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Lost information
I was surprised that the original source I had stumbled upon to create this article--a profile in the Addis Fortune--somehow dropped out of this article. Part of the explanation is that the link has died--& there is no mirror copy on archive.org--so I suspect someone removed it for that reason. That profile did have some useful information, so that version can be found here in case someone wants to hunt down where that lost page was moved to, & restore this information. -- llywrch (talk) 19:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Assessment comment
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Student content
Hi! A student of mine has some work in their sandbox that could be added to the article, but I wanted to add it here to see if someone else felt it should be added rather than add it myself. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:47, 28 August 2018 (UTC)