Talk:Hailsham

Cattle Market
Quote from current article (as of 3/1/07); ''There is currently much controversy over the sale of Hailsham Cattle Market and its redevelopment into a supermarket. Hailsham was originally granted its charter for a market in 1252 by Henry III. The market is one of few remaining cattle markets along the south coast, and if closed, would probably be a great loss to the town. The local MP, Charles Hendry, has got involved and is fighting to keep the market open.''

While I agree this is certainly a local issue at present, to me, it doesent seem to 'fit' in a factually based encyclopedia such as this one. The planned Tesco development is just as controversial, yet it isn't mentioned in the article - thoughts, anybody? Muchclag 20:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The advantage of Wikipedia is that it can include current issues. As long as it is written with a neutral point of view, I do not see a problem. The current statement does seem slightly biased towards the Save the Market camp though. Likewise, the Tesco development should go in, again written with a neutral point of view. MortimerCat 00:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Fair enough :) - Writing the Tesco debate from a neutral point of view would be pretty difficult. Everyone seems to have very strong opinions on it in the town, either way!. Likewise, the local press seem to have taken an 'Anti' view - it would require a lot of self-research. Muchclag 10:17, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Aldi's plans for the cattle market have been turned down, as reported in Sussex express 23rd Nov 2007 http://www.sussexexpress.co.uk/news/Final-blow-for-supermarket-bid.3517667.jp does anyone want to update the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsx geoff (talk • contribs) 19:49, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


 * And done - Sussex Express reference added. I'll see what I can do on the photo front too.Muchclag (talk) 11:36, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Is this still an issue in the town? I think some redevleopment is needed on this particular part of the page. --Frontier219 (talk) 22:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Style Reorganisation
I have reorganised the article as per comments on my Talk Page. Muchclag (talk) 15:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

The Cuckoo line.
Tidying up the Railway section, I struggled to understand the closure sequence. I would suggest the first two paragraphs needs a slight revamping, putting into a more chronological order. At the moment it mentions the 1968 closure, then the 1965 closure, and finally back again to the 1968. MortimerCat (talk) 00:30, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Reworked a little to add emphasis - Hailsham outlived the rest of the line by three years.Muchclag (talk) 13:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

What next?
Looking at WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements I have concluded that the main sections we are missing are: History, Governance, Geography, Demography. Additionally, the lead section needs expanding. I will start on the Governance section.

The WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements gives a good summary of the Manual of style which we should be following. Citing sources is important, especially if we want GA status. The rule is nothing to be added without a citation mainly because facts without citations get removed prior to GA accreditation.

Good luck! MortimerCat (talk) 21:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

"Mainly a commuter town
A terribly easy thing to say, and always making it sound as though people are flocking to London! The website here, whilst agreeing that there are commuters, says that "some" go to London, others to "nearby towns" (Brighton, Eastbourne, maybe Hastings, I suspect). Peter Shearan (talk) 10:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually I am surprised there are people living there who commute to London at all! Just because the Hastings/Bexhill area is deprived doesn't mean the whole of Sussex is. e.g. Brighton and Eastbourne are massive places for business. FM [ talk to me  |  show contributions  ]  19:27, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I have removed the statement since no-one has yet supported it. 217.42.140.79 (talk) 14:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

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Roads
Hailsham is near the junction of two major roads, The A22 road to Eastbourne and Crowborough and the A27 South Coast Trunk Road.


 * 1) A22 goes nowhere near Crowborough, was that supposed to say Croydon?
 * 2) A27 does not enter Hailsham. "The A22/A27 junction is in the next Parish" would be factually correct but not very notable.

MortimerCat (talk) 09:58, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It says the junction is NEAR Hailsham, Uckfield or East Grinstead should be on the A22 instead of crowborough, How about adding Eastbourne (If that isnt already on there) Kentm (talk) 20:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Redundancy to remove or clarification to add
Forgive a comment on an otherwise good article, but the first line of the first para either contains redundancy or needs clarification. It says Hailsham is "the largest of the five main towns in the Wealden district of East Sussex, England" without further qualification. Surely "the largest town in the Wealden district of East Sussex, England" is sufficient. It would perhaps be useful to list the other top-five towns. Thanks! p.r.newman (talk) 13:48, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

History
Sounds fun, but maybe there should be some refs? There was some activity in this part of Sussex during the baronial wars and in the armed rivalry between Matilda and Stephen, the castle at Pevensey being garrisoned and held by opposing sides. SovalValtos (talk) 20:50, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Edit and Delete
No amount of editing will make an off topic section relevant. Incomprehensible nonsense also needs removing, particularly nonsense unsupported by refs.SovalValtos (talk) 16:04, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

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