Talk:Hair conditioner

Active ingredients
Could anyone shed some light on the active ingredients in commercial hair conditioner and how they are synthesised?

As I've understood, in addition to perfume and a foaming agent the corporations are adding a lot of inert substances (what is a bunch of vitamins gonna do to DEAD TISSUE anyway?) as well as a bundle of plants, fruits, herbs (apparently organic acids do have some effect, though, citric and ethanoic acid being mentioned in the article) in order to make the product interesting to the consumer. (Hehe, why don't they put all consumer products in generic lab flasks and label them scientifically, no-nonsense?) 84.48.150.211 20:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Waxy/Oily
Is there anything about people feeling like conditioners weigh their hair down too much? Some people don't like how conditioners make their hair feel waxy or oily. 71.250.9.119 15:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Sample Conditioners
Is this true? Is this really the sort of thing that should be on here? Should the name be changed to "Natural Conditioner"? --Funkmaster 801 10:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I think it should be entirely removed. This an encyclopedia, not a beauty manual.CerealBabyMilk 02:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I disagree with the above comment. An encyclopedia should offer a broad range of knowledge, even on the subject of beauty, to be considered thorough and complete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.125.116.14 (talk) 14:38, February 2, 2007 (UTC)

More Specifics on the Ingredients Section
Ditto on the active ingredients - Great start, could someone get more specific about the active ingredients? Say instead of "moisturizers", be specific as to what is actually used as a moisturizer For kicks...I'm gonna try some straight olive oil & see how it compares to other conditioners. I've used many conditioners from cheap to expensive, & since I flat iron, I can actually get a pretty good feel for their effect. Will post back (on the talk page) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.127.187 (talk) 10:36, July 26, 2006 (UTC)

History?
It would be interesting to have some historical notes:


 * When were commercial hair conditioners first produced, and where?
 * What was used before commercial products?
 * What was the earliest known use of something with conditioning properties? Prehistory? Jonsg 10:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Why hair tonic?
Why is there a redirect from hair tonic to here? These are substantially different products! One is to care for hair, the other is to cause its growth. Suggest redirect be removed. 82.16.99.131 (talk) 16:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Normal use of "hair conditioner"
My understanding of the normal/current use of "conditioner" is that it refers to the detangling stuff that is applied to the hair after shampoo and rinsed off. This article includes a far wider range of treatments. I am not sure that the article makes this clear. Things like Maccassar Oil, Brylcreem, Brilliantine, Pomade and Bay Rum I think are more often thought of as "dressing" rather than conditioning. Is this true? (Msrasnw (talk) 09:48, 12 September 2009 (UTC))

Purpose
What is the purpose of hair conditioners? I think this is the first question the article should try to answer. - The Aviv (talk) 20:53, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Mechanism of action
The "Mechanism of Action" section was a little unclear. From the original wording and layout it seemed like the quaternary ammonium might be a negative effect before the conditioner was applied, that the conditioner then needed to fix. I've revised the wording to make it clear that this is a positive effect, coming from the conditioner. I also fixed one typo. Omc (talk) 14:47, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Hair masks
The language regarding the "hair masks" section breaks from the rest of the article, and reads like a "hot tip," or something. It doesn't explain what a hair mask is, and it doesn't go into as much detail as the other types of conditioner. There's also no reference to its source. I don't want to just remove it, but it does take away from the credibility of the article as a whole. iamhemingway (talk) 17:16, 5 April 2020 (UTC)