Talk:Hair loss

Research category has been neutered
There is nothing in there about cause or research on stem cells. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8090:2900:93B6:757D:B109:25A0:173 (talk) 04:51, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Baldness
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Addition to External Links
I'd like to add a link to Alopecia World, a social networking site for people living with hair loss. Please check out the website to make sure whether this complies with Wikipedia's guidelines. WSchmied (talk) 12:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to add BeBold charity supporting alopecia sufferers


 * Neither of those links are appropriate for Wikipedia. Mark Shaw (talk) 15:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

That's correct; cause the wiki is only that dude right there. Entire thing. He decides. You been pwned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.169.224.104 (talk) 09:06, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Regrowth?
I came here to check if hair ever regrows (I'm 19 and a lot of single hairs keep falling every day). The article doesn't address that. Can anyone add the info? --92.247.217.169 (talk) 07:54, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes I have had regrowth and know that it is possible to reverse alopecia. See AlopeciaAngel.com for more info, they helped me and many others too! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.144.76.93 (talk) 11:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Pronunciation
How do you pronounce this word? --89.139.24.154 (talk) 00:37, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Can occur on the body?
I think alopecia can refer to loss of hair from the body too?-- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:42, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Explain this to me, please
Isnt Wikipedia supposed to use everyday word usage? Then why is this article given the Greek name instead of the common word "baldness"? Who in their right mind uses the word "Alopecia" on a daily basis? Ethelred Cyning (talk) 21:08, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I take it you didn't read the article before commenting. Baldness is a seperate article and isn't synonymous with alopecia. As for who uses the word, I'd advise a Google search. Cheers. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 22:39, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Alopecia is the medical term, hairloss is the average term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.144.76.93 (talk) 11:16, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Alopecia is the same as baldness
The hair loss is called "alopecia", when you lose hair, you become bald, because of that, this article should be merged with "Baldness", both terms are the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BOMBINI (talk • contribs) 23:08, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Depends in which type of alopecia you refer to. Many types of alopecia have demonstrated regression through treatment and natural cause. To the norm "baldness tends to suggest 'not coming back'and to those of thius educated in the subject 'androgenetic alopecia' and 'androgentic alopecia'. - so ensure you accuratley describe conditons before feeling the need to waste your time in suggesting wikipedia links my dear boy. Dr.Betterthanyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.8.8.226 (talk) 17:37, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ Baldness does not suggest "not coming back", it suggests baldness. That is an implicit character assassination of a bland adjective. Alopecia is the medical description for "loss of hair", as is "Baldness". I agree with the merger. "Baldness" is a relic of the vernacular, and should redirect to "Alopecia", and "Male pattern baldness" to "Androgenic alopecia". Ramwithaxe talk  17:44, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. Neither term carries automatic suggestions of permanence, and as a medical term I think alopecia is more appropriate than baldness. Ashleyleia (talk) 18:16, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support. These terms are synonymous; alopecia would be more encyclopedia as a title. LT90001 (talk) 13:51, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Differences between alopecia and baldness
There are differences between alopecia and baldness. Alopecia means hair loss or hair thinning; it is an undergoing process. Baldness means lack of hair and is a result of alopecia. Baldness is a state of being rather than a process. Alopecia only applies to humans. Baldness applies to other primates. These topics discuss nouns with separate meanings and should not be merged. --Karen Farrell 15:55, 7 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farrelldoc (talk • contribs)

But the two articles are clearly related. has anyone really searched baldness in apes? Better one good article than two half articles. Polyhomework (talk) 20:48, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

am new to editing and got a bollocking last time for erasing some guys purile rubbish about hidden memories etc but Later life[edit source | editbeta] Blessed Cecilia Caesarini, who was received by St. Dominic into his new order, in her old age described him as "...thin and of middle height. His face was handsome and somewhat fair. He had reddish hair and beard and beautiful eyes. ...His hands were long and fine and his voice pleasingly resonant. He never got bald, though he wore the full tonsure, which was mingled with a few grey hairs.[15]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Dominic

what I try to illustrate is that there seems to be something of a species characteristic going on.

Male pattern baldness is mostly the result of a genetic event that causes dihydrotestosterone (DHT), a male hormone, to cause the hair follicles to shrivel. The hair produced is progressively smaller, until it is practically invisible (or may disappear completely). It has been speculated that this is an evolutionary event that signifies maturity and conveys greater authority on affected men.

My money is on the way society is structured and the tendency to raise individuals one above another by way of position in society Thetiesthatbind (talk) 11:00, 6 April 2014 (UTC) Thetiesthatbind (talk) 22:17, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I have a hunch that baldness late in life is an evolutionary adaptation to life in the more temperate north where there is less sunshine than in Africa, an adaptation similar to fair straight hair. The reason it happens later in life might be that the need for vitamin D doubles after a certain age, and quadruples some years later. Women probably do not need hair loss late in life as much as men because they no longer get pregnant and need extra vitamin D in order to counter the calcium loss, for which they have a lighter skin tone than men their whole life. Anybody aware of scientific support for this? There is also the question of greying of body hair / silverbacks which I suspect serves a similar purpose. Cobanyastigi (talk) 11:05, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Duplicate Cause?
"Fungal infections (such as tinea capitis) [...] Scalp infection"

What is a Scalp Infection, if not a Fungal Infection? I feel an example or correction is needed AnnanFay (talk) 15:27, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Reverted revert
Reverted latest revert. Don't understand why cite is "spam". Citation is to published review article by major figure in field in major journal. Note PMID, etc.. Tertiary source in medical literature is as high up wikipedia:reliable sources list as you can get. Certainly better than the assorted webpages, news articles, etc. that constitute most citations on this page. Belton1 (talk) 15:16, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Should AminoMar C section be removed?
I edited this section quite a while ago to try to warn readers that the supporting research is questionable, but now that I've read WP:MEDRS (sorry I missed it the first time) I'm undecided if it might be better to just entirely delete it. Can anyone help me here? TheGoblin (talk) 14:47, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge
I have proposed a merge from baldness to androgenic alopecia, with any remaining content merged into alopecia. Please comment here, on the talk page for Baldness. A concurrent discussion is underway on Wikiproject Medicine, [[:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ayurvedic Medicine for hair regrowth|available here[|Ayurvedic Medicine for hair regrowth products]'''--]].

This merge seeks to reduce the duplication in content and improve the overall quality of Wikipedia. LT90001 (talk) 11:05, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Conflicting information with sister page
The page for Androgenic alopecia says that environmental causes are part of the causes of male pattern baldness, yet the Hair loss[] page's section for male pattern baldness says that environmental factors do not have much influence. Which is true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seb0910 (talk • contribs) 04:24, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Micro-needling
Regarding: "Micro-needing is a painless", is there any justification for the use of the word "painless"? The procedure might be "low" pain, but from everything I read, puncturing skin causes pain, in most people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.204.149.159 (talk) 17:41, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Hypotrichosis
Should be merged here as IMO. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:51, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support merge; even though there is a difference between an absence of hair, and a process which causes hair loss (as discussed above), the content of the two pages, and the two topics, overlaps to such an extent that they are best described on the same page. Klbrain (talk) 21:30, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ Klbrain (talk) 05:29, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2016
Spell psychological correctly in place of psyshological..

Tucotuco (talk) 09:39, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The article does not appear to use "psyshological" anywhere. Can you be more specific?  Deli nk (talk) 10:39, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * ❌ all uses appear to be spelled correctly - Arjayay (talk) 12:32, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2016



 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: This is simply promotional material. Topher385 (talk) 15:47, 5 September 2016 (UTC)



Leviticus 13:40
For males, in scripture, baldness means "clean." I don't know if it will come in handy for a section... so here is a note (for future revisions).Twillisjr (talk) 19:49, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Elisha
When a group of boys (or youths) from Bethel taunted the prophet Elisha for his baldness, he cursed them in Yahweh's name, and two female bears came from the woods and killed forty-two of the boys. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8807:A703:AD00:1186:BC92:AF41:8BB (talk) 00:18, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2017
74.111.108.51 (talk) 22:47, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 20 December 2017
128.147.28.1 (talk) 16:07, 20 December 2017 (UTC) . Empty request. Deli nk (talk) 16:18, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2018
Jaigogajihair (talk) 04:55, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


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Causes section is missing key information
The Causes section does not describe how the wrt signaling pathway functionally relates to hair growth or hair loss and also omits how exactly androgens affect the pathway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clay Juicer (talk • contribs) 20:00, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Fundamental definition
Are hair loss and aplopecia the same thing? I don't see reference support that. --Somatic dyspenea (talk) 12:54, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Somatic dyspenea yes. One is Latin/Greek the other in English. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 14:20, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. So furs on elsewhere other than head are also called as hair? For example, fur on my feet can be said as hair on my feet? --Somatic dyspenea (talk) 14:23, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes fur is hair. You will notice that the url to that exact ref is included and says "Alopecia is the general medical term for hair loss." Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 14:25, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I get it. --Somatic dyspenea (talk) 14:28, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Also "DermNet NZ was founded 23 years ago by a group of Dermatologists from New Zealand. It has become a world-renowned resource of skin disease information. " built in collaboration with "New Zealand Dermatological Society". Not perfect but good enough... Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:29, 23 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Also, I noticed that Alopecia is the general medical term for hair loss. only shows up in the archived reference. Should I assume that the definition Alopecia is the general medical term for hair loss. has gone outdated? --Somatic dyspenea (talk) 14:32, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * No, you should assume that lots of websites change their formating on a regular basis for SEO purposes. And shuffle stuff into subpages or adjust the level of content for their audience. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 14:42, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Ahh, I see. Sounds like the definition of medical terms never change. A bit counter-intuitive. --Somatic dyspenea (talk) 14:45, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

"Alopecia" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Alopecia. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 14 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Hux (talk) 06:07, 14 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I see this is a 3 year old debate, but would it be prudent to add more clarifying information in the header paragraph about why alopecia redirects to "hair loss"? I think most people searching for "alopecia" expect (rightfully or not) to come to a page about alopecia areata and/or a page that seems more clearly related to that condition rather than hair loss as a general phenomenon. SpookRoingus (talk) 22:20, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Demodex folliculorum
''Demodex folliculorum, a microscopic mite that feeds on the sebum produced by the sebaceous glands, denies hair essential nutrients and can cause thinning. Demodex folliculorum is not present on every scalp and is more likely to live in an excessively oily scalp environment.''

My understanding is that hair is not alive, so Demodex "denying it nutrients" seems to be nonsensical. Valgrus Thunderaxe (talk) 20:33, 20 November 2021 (UTC)


 * There's what appears to be a reference to Christian scripture below my post, but I didn't put it there. FYI.  Valgrus Thunderaxe (talk) 20:35, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2023
change "include the medications minoxidil (or finasteride)" to "include the medications minoxidil, finasteride, or ketoconazole." Zackcer01 (talk) 20:09, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. From the current sources and text of this article and Ketoconazole, only off-label use for a specific form of hair loss is done, so don't think it merits inclusion in the lede. If you have a WP:MEDRS that shows otherwise, link to it here and reopen the request then Cannolis (talk) 22:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)