Talk:Haji Bayram Veli

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The Arabic script (right in the beginning) does not tell his name, but reads God mercy him, which is something like R.I.P. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.253.27.93 (talk) 20:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Image positioning
Pls see [| Manual of Style/Images]
 * "Multiple images in the same article can be staggered right-and-left. However, avoid sandwiching text between two images that face each other, or between an image and infobox, navigation template, or similar. If multiple related images are being placed on the right, then the template may be useful."

-- Nmkuttiady (talk) 06:57, 18 September 2014 (UTC)


 * In this case, since there isn't that much text, the images at the right should be placed in a gallery at the bottom, or eliminated. --Bejnar (talk) 06:15, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Which is what I've been trying to do. But a non-registered user's been repeatedly reverting the changes.NMKuttiady (talk) 10:00, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Infobox image
I did not find a specific Wikipedia guideline about images in the infobox. The Template:Infobox Muslim scholar is silent on the issue, the Template:Infobox saint suggests image An icon, statue, etc. Since we do not have an image of Hacı Bayram-ı Veli, and are unlikely to acquire one, much less an accurate one, it seems that a picture that is emblematic of the esteem in which he is held would be appropriate. The current image, File:Hacı Bayram Veli Türbesi 2.jpg seems appropriate in that regard. --Bejnar (talk) 18:49, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I was going by WP:LEADIMAGE. It says that the lead image should "illustrate the topic specifically", and the topic of this article is not a tomb, but a person. "Lead images are not required, and not having a lead image may be the best solution if there is no easy representation of the topic." I have seen FAs without a lead image. In my opinion, it makes much more sense than forcing an image into the lead when it does not belong there. Surtsicna (talk) 11:11, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * But I don't think that there is any forcing going on. The picture is emblematic of the esteem in which this saint is held. --Bejnar (talk) 05:51, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * How? Besides, there are no saints in [mainstream] Islam. If the article describes him as such somewhere, it should be corrected. Surtsicna (talk) 08:15, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Or "holyman" if you prefer, this is the talk page. The image is  emblematic of the esteem by showing the richness of the decor of the tomb that has been provided, the gold, etc. --Bejnar (talk) 20:32, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Which is why it should definitely be in the article - just not in the infobox. Images of tombs are appropriate lead images in articles about tombs. Surtsicna (talk) 21:31, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Why what should be in the article? --Bejnar (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The image, the thing we are discussing here. Surtsicna (talk) 22:46, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Name change
I recommend a name change for the article. The English spelling, Haji Bayram Veli makes much more sense. Korybiko (talk) 02:12, 29 April 2022 (UTC)