Talk:Hall Cherokee II

Operational history
the info on the current fleet is admittedly difficult to cite. some of it i could site the vintage sailplane association magazines as sources but some of it is known through personal correspondence with the owners of the gliders. However I think it is important info to have on the page as it shows the current usage of the glider. Thoughts on the best way to document it? Tonycondon (talk) 01:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately information from personal contacts and such is considered original research and thus doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article. To be included it must be cited to reliable, published references that are non-self published, that is really the difference between an encyclopedia and a type club or fan website. The key factor is that any reader must be able to verify the information in the article as per WP:V. The best we can do is the external link to the information that is already there. - Ahunt (talk) 11:38, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * What we have there right now looks fine and well referenced. Incidentally, if it helps then FAA, TC, CASA, EASA etc aircraft registration records can be used as refs. Links can be found at WikiProject Aviation/Resources - Ahunt (talk) 12:18, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * What would really help the article a lot is a photo, I don't suppose you have one that you own the rights to and can upload to Commons? - Ahunt (talk) 18:28, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes I've got tons of pictures, meant to get that done yesterday. Actually spent some time looking for a good one but didnt' find one I liked. Will dig around some more tonight or tomorrow and find a good one.  Then I'll figure out how to use Commons Tonycondon (talk) 19:38, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey that is great! Commons is pretty easy to use, you need an account there and just upload the image with an appropriete licence, of which there is a list to choose from. I make my own images "public domain" so anyone can use them for any reason (Quite a few have been used on news websites, including one this week), but you can choose a slightly more restrictive licence if you like. The image uploading process is a simple step-by-step process. Then, once the image is uploaded over there, it can be put into the article. If you can't figure out the coding to do that just leave a note here with a link to the Commons page with the image and I'll put it into the article. We have room in the article for three or four photos if you can't pick a favourite! The good thing is, as long as they get catagorized on Commons (I can help with that) then they will get used in other language Wikipedias as well. I just found an image I took on Arabic Wikipedia today! It all helps spread knowledge! - Ahunt (talk) 22:05, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I see you are one step ahead of me! I just added a category to the photo over on Commons so that others can find it more easily, otherwise looks good! We have room for a couple more photos, if you like. - Ahunt (talk) 22:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for adding those pictures, it really dresses up the article and makes the subject come to life! - Ahunt (talk) 17:25, 31 March 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome, will keep adding info as I come across stuff that belongs here. Tonycondon (talk) 19:06, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * That sounds good, I'll keep an eye here and help out as I can, with formatting and such, although you seem to have it pretty much figured out, so far!- Ahunt (talk) 19:32, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

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