Talk:Halo 3/Archive 11

Archive
I archived last one, easier now. Please remember new discussions on the bottom. The Walkin Dude 15:58, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

It seems we have a Halo Hating vandal in here. Somebody put back the 'records' section please
It seems we have a Halo Hating vandal in here. Somebody put back the 'records' section please. He took out the records section. Littlenickle 22:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay fien then I'll add it back myself. Don't remove it this time Littlenickle 17:16, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The "Records" section was never removed. It was renamed Sales. --Silver Edge 03:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Stuff to do
Way I see it, here's what we're missing right now:
 * All the langauge needs to be updated to make sure it's post-release.
 * Development needs to be expanded.
 * All references need to be properly formatted.
 * Get rid of weasel words, anything of that sort.

Anyone else see something we need? David Fuchs ( talk ) 21:17, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

i think it's too Ad'ish for wikipedia >_> we'll need to fix that too, also, it's sounding like a guide in many of the gameplay parts. I don't think we need to elaborate on the skulls, armor, and etc. Or be specific about the # of points needed in the meta-game, just briefly mention those topics 66.215.77.69 02:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * This has been protected since September 5, maybe we should lift the protection now, it has been over a month since the release of the game and while we can expect some vandalism its not going to be as numerous as it was back there, I'm just saying this because semi-protection can be wrongly interpreted as unstability when reviewing this article. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  20:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I unprotected. Hopefully it will have dropped off, but I guess we'll see... David Fuchs ( talk  ) 23:01, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * A good idea ThebestkianoTundefinedC 13:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I've reapplied semi-protection, since anonymous and new user edits after unprotection didn't look so hot. We can try again in two weeks or so, but given that currently all of the Halo trilogy articles are semi-protected, this may be a case of more or less indefinite semi-protection, unfortunately. In terms of evaluating the stability requirement for GA/FA, vandalism should always be discounted when judging that criterion, so semi-protection should not be a factor. Full protection is usually indicative of a genuine content dispute, and thus is taken into account. — TKD:: Talk  20:56, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Which is kind of weird... I think it's that vandals are going after Halo 3, and then the closest articles available... you'd think a month after release the vandalism would've dropped down a bit... hopefully it won't be an issue for too much longer. David Fuchs ( talk  ) 21:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey i know that some people are trying to vandalize this article from keeping it featured so we have to work a bit to revert that Redstarsldr (talk) 20:43, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Planet at the End
I think it would be a good idea to identify the planet in the legendary ending as a Mechanized planet, because it did seem to be covered with lights. Chamboozer 21:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * That's nontrivial interpretation of primary-source material, and thus original research, which isn't allowed. — TKD:: Talk  21:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Should it be mentioned though? How it could be soo many things? Or would that be too close to a forum for the article?The Walkin Dude 17:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

We should identify the planet exactly as it is: a planet with lots of lines of flashing, glowing lights. Peptuck 17:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

And So it is, though it still seems somewhat incomplete... Must jut be me. I've been wondering- should we create a seperate page, listing new vehicles, weapons, and etc that appear in the game? Or does the covenant vehicles in Halo page fulfill that? Also- we need a Human vehicles in halo, to equal the Covenant page. Darkƒire 22:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Unless we get into trivial portions of the additions, like individual weapons, there is no need or reason for a seperate article. David Fuchs ( talk  ) 01:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Creation of such a secondary page would probably not be advisable. There is precedent for deleting such sub-pages, and unless anything major has changed (other than Halo 3, that is) I see no reason to reverse the situation. Ourai  тʃс 18:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * No, we shouldn't create a separate page for such trivial material, as a matter of fact we should merge the Covenant vehicles page. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  09:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

The planet is a forerunner planet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amerretto (talk • contribs)

Considering the above "mechanized planet" post the planet should be Onyx from the Halo books. The planet was composed of sentinels. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Megadeth1539 (talk • contribs)

The planet is a forerunner planet, an interview with a bungie executive stated it. So on the halo 3 page could someone change the last line in the plot section, from 'unidentified planet' to 'forerunner planet' (its literally just before the development section)  Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amerretto (talk • contribs)


 * Source? — TKD:: Talk  17:40, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

If you have no source, we don't even know if it is a planet. remember, this is Bungie we're talking about. Remember Onyx?69.22.71.123 17:14, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

(I merged the two topics) NOTHING on bungie.net mentions the term "planet". Use the search feature on anything but the forum. Turns up nothing. -- Signed by Wolverenesst c 03:30, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Easter Eggs
Should we add an article about the easter eggs in Halo 3 like the secret grunt and mongoose on the Halo level and all the other ones? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.109.178 (talk) 14:52, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No. See WP:GAMEGUIDE. -- Kesh 16:52, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, that falls under WP:TRIVIA. There was already an easter egg/errors section in this article that has been removed. Spigot  Map  16:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

sorry my bad —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.109.178 (talk) 20:11, 3 November 2007 (UTC) The eggs should be at the very least be metioned of them in some way after all they are part of the game and we do want a compleet article don't we? but dont go into detale and give a list that would be unreasable p.s exsuse my spelling(Ralon silver 22:51, 3 November 2007 (UTC))

Hey guys, why don't we put the Sales section in the critical reception article? Named "Reception and impact"?
Honestly every othe major wikipedia article does it, I've seen this been done in hundreds of landmark albums by musicians, movies, books, you name it. Why not in Halo 3? We'll put the reception and the impact Halo had in the same article

Glencoe999 18:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Personally, I like the current layout, as the 'Release' section doesn't go into critques, just the facts. But it's up to consensus. David Fuchs ( talk  ) 20:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Cast
Debra Wilson, an actress, is not credited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.182.52 (talk) 18:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

GA review
Looks great, I don't see anything particularly wrong. Good friend100 01:46, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Some comments
I suggest you continue to improve this article to FA status. I see room for improvement in the characters section. Also, remember to update anything such as awards. Good friend100 15:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

FAC?
I'm gonna have plenty of time this week to address concerns. Should I just nominate it for FAC? David Fuchs ( talk ) 21:45, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I will have a lot of time this week and next week might be a bit busy, I know we are still on hot waters but it seems that now its a good time to create Featured article candidates/Halo 3. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  23:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * While I didn't contribute much to the article other than fixing refs and reverting some cruft I think I'll be able to help now. I'm much better at implementing direct suggestions such as those from a FAC and I finish my exams on Friday so next week I'll have plenty of time to spare. Well done on the article so far, I didn't look at it much since before the GA-push and it's really improved. James086 Talk &#124;  Email 00:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I wanted to apologize for not finishing my review on the article, unfortunately I was busy with RL stuff. Since the discussion there is closed, I'm willing to put in a few cents here. Comment on my talk page should any issues arise.

Prose is better than before, much better. A few minor grammar tweaks are needed (like ambiguity such as using the word "this" and not following it with a noun), but its getting very close. I noticed there are a couple of citation tags that need to be filled in with references. Also, I feel that two images aren't necessary for the different editions; one, definately, but not two, stick with the legendary. Maybe a comment from the composer in the audio section? Seems more about sound effects than music to me... same goes for cast: try and get a comment or something. That's a short note for now, I must be off. I apologize again for the late (embarrassingly so) reply. Zemalia (talk) 05:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

External link
WP:EL, number 13 says "Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors." Is Halopedia reliable enough? Obviously we can't use it as a source but this is the External links section. Bungie thinks its pretty good. I don't mind either way. James086 Talk &#124; Email 08:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Format of Sales
Somebody's gone and moved the sales out of its own paragraph and into reception, however I feel that it was better served by having a seperate section before the actual crtical commentary. In other words, which is better, A:

Marketing and release Versions Sales Reception Or B:

Marketing and release Versions Reception Sales

Thoughts, then? David Fuchs ( talk ) 12:37, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the sales stuff should be under "Marketing and release" and leave the awards and reviews to "Reception and impact". Release is more closely related to sales while reception is sort of related to sales but it's more about reviews and what people thought of it. James086 Talk &#124;  Email 12:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Awards Section
Does having a site listed in the 'awards section' that is stating "the game is nominated eleven times for the GameStooge Awards, scheduled for January 1, 2008." come across as site advertisement? I mean, I see no problem after the awards are given that this is a fact of the game and its popularity and achievements, but this comes across and soliciting site hits. Any opinions?

Tom —Preceding comment was added at 07:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Its the same as saying the a actor is nominated for a award its not floging the oscers or the such its just a statment of fact. unless theres a link in wich case remove the link as a rule of thumb —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.236.232.33 (talk) 09:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)