Talk:Hamad City

WP:ERRORS
The DYK came up at WP:ERRORS when posted and the discussion was:

... that Hamad City in Gaza was largely destroyed within minutes?

This supposed fact is not clearly stated in the article. The nomination indicates that it's referring to airstrikes in December 2023. It appears that about 5 apartment blocks were destroyed on that occasion but the complex had about 50 and so was not "largely destroyed". Most of it must have remained because there was a subsequent Battle of Hamad in which 100 buildings were cleared and that took two weeks. A source from that article has photos which seem to show intact apartment blocks still standing at that time – March 2024. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * This should be pulled immediately. Spreading disinformation about the Israel-Hamas war is not a good look. It appears that the nominator noticed the mistake and offered a corrected hook, but  rejected this and approved the original. I wouldn't recommend a hasty swapping out of hooks though; ALT0a should get a proper review before being used. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 07:19, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Note that the nominator effectively identified the issue as they proposed a modification to the hook based on a "closer reading". That modification was rejected and it is surprising that the unmodified hook was then run as it was clearly erroneous.  Andrew🐉(talk) 07:23, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * . Yes, this seems to have been a basic fact checking error, the article text (and the source) don't say what the hook says at all. The reviewer noted that there was a slight inaccuracy between the five airstrikes reported, and the five buildings mentioned in ALT0a, but then went back and approved ALT0, which the nominator had already noted did not match the sourcing, after reviewing again. I'd think as Soujourner says, maybe a modified version of ALT0a matching the wording used in the article would be best here. If this doesn't get reinstated today, I'd suggest giving the nom another chance another day, as I don't think the nominator was at fault for this. Also pinging too, as promoter and admin. Cheers  &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 07:48, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for acknowledging my efforts to get everything right. How about if we simply edit the hook to read "... that Hamad City in Gaza was largely destroyed within minutes during the Israel–Hamas war?" It's not as if there exists any doubt that the neighbourhood was in fact largely destroyed, correct? If anyone is really not sure about this, I encourage them to watch the embedded videos in this link. Maha Thaer, a resident of Hamad who is quoted in the article, said that "We don't have a city any more, only rubble. There is absolutely nothing left ... There were no walls or windows. Most of the towers were completely blown up." Havradim  leaf a message  10:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No, this is not a definite fact. The reporting in March has a quote "This neighborhood looks nice..."  There was then more fighting and devastation but now it appears that residents like Maha Thaer are returning and taking stock.  The war is still ongoing and so we don't have a conclusion yet.  Viewing videos to form a provisional conclusion would be original research from primary sources. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:20, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, Thaer did say that most of the towers were completely blown up. But if we cannot take her word for it, how about – "... that Hamad City was turned into ruins as a result of the Israel–Hamas war?" Quote: "Hamas senior officials and their families moved into this new and opulent neighborhood, which then turned into ruins after the IDF entered as part of the ground operation to dismantle Hamas terror infrastructure in the area." (added to the article) Havradim  leaf a message  12:06, 30 June 2024 (UTC)