Talk:Hamid Karzai/Archive 1

Removed material
Someone removed the following... if it can be sourced it may be added back. Photouploaded (talk) 01:12, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hamid Karzai received criticism from the Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA), who have stated that they believe the current government has no support in most areas of Afghanistan, and that Taliban are enforcing tribal laws as they were under their rule. Karzai has also received criticism for inviting Taliban into the current government. In addition, Karzai has been criticized for his links and support to the Pashtun ethno-fascist organization Afghan Mellat. More importantly, Karzai has been criticized for his neutral stance on the composition of the hand picked Kabul government which does not justly or proportionally represent the ethnic makeup of the Afghan people - namely, the apparent skew toward non-Pashtun minority groups.


 * I am fine with it being removed from the article, as I don't know anything about it... I just prefer to move things to the Talk page for sourcing if possible. Photouploaded (talk) 01:54, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Election of 2004

 * in a tally based on 98.4 percent of total votes cast, the U.S.-backed Karzai had 55.5 percent, which was 39 percentage points ahead of his closest challenger, former Education Minister Yunus Qanooni.

Question about links in place of birth
Under his picture, it says his place of birth is "Karz village, Qandahar" but Qandahar is the capital of Kandahar province, so shouldnt the link be Kandahar (linking to the page Kandahar province, not Qandahar (province) since that is not a province) --AlexTheMartian 21:01, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)
 * I fixed the redirect of Qandahar (province) to link to Kandahar province. BCKILLa 00:28, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Anger
this is stupid. if someone does'nt like hamid karzai or doesnt like how the article was written, you could have don done something constructive about but no, someone just erased the whole article. it's just crazy and self-centered.


 * Sometimes people erase whole articles, just because they can. It's okay; it's relatively easy to undo. Someone usually fixes the change within five minutes, so no problem.   – Quadell (talk) (help)   03:02, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

fix fix fix

Lemonde.fr links to us

 * Lemonde.fr: At the moment (December 21, 2004), Lemonde.fr links to the English version of Wikipedia's biography of Hamid Karzai. Good for us, that it calls us ¨le site d'une encyclopédie (en anglais)" (an encyclopedia's website, in English), but it shows us that our French translation leaves a lot to be desired. Andrew pmk 20:12, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Little bit of misinformation
"Several sources, most notably the documentary film Fahrenheit 9/11, have reported that Karzai once worked as a consultant for the oil company Unocal." Since when is Farenheit a "DOCUMENTARY"? It's my understanding that a documentary film is factual. I would suggest this word be removed from the text as Moore's movie was not truthful. 
 * Many documentaries have a point of view. that is not unusual. Kingturtle 23:02, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not questioning his point of view, I'm questioning whether a movie can be called a documentary if it distorts reality.
 * Are there movies that don’t distory reality? -Ahruman 11:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

NOT truthful?? What colour is the sky in your world? Ann Coulter red???

The para it too much
Pl don't take this as a personal attack or something of that kind But i could like to point out,it seems to me;Hamid Karzai is hypocrite.As the following paragraph says so. "When the Taliban emerged onto the political scene in the 1990s, Karzai was initially among their supporters. However, as with many other early Taliban supporters, he broke with the Taliban, citing distrust of their links to Pakistan. After the Taliban drove Rabbani out of Kabul in 1996, Karzai refused to serve as their U.N. ambassador. Karzai lived in exile in Quetta, Pakistan where he worked to reinstate Zahir Shah." Yousaf465

Restaurant chain
The only Bay Area restaurant I know named "Afghani House" is in Sunnyvale, and is not part of the Karzais' chain. Their SF location is, as far as I know, also called Helmand. Can anyone locate a link that says otherwise? Auros 21:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Why are references to Helmand restaurant there in the first place ? Is it because these restaurants are owned by Mr. Karzai's older brothers. This is not a place for free publicity. They should be removed.

"Other information" section was removed
05:37, 12 June 2007 220.235.0.239 (Talk) (15,651 bytes) (→Other information) (undo) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hamid_Karzai&oldid=137620713 User page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/220.235.0.239 Talk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:220.235.0.239

The "other information" section was removed by this user. I added it back since I don't see anything on this talk page about removing such information -- I will add back due to WP:Assume Good Faith and WP:Editing Policy (" If you make deletions, you should try to explain why you delete their contributions in the article talk page. This could reduce the possibility of reverting wars and unnecessary arguments. So, whatever you do, try to preserve information."). Here's a link to the last version of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hamid_Karzai&oldid=137365360

I do agree though with the user who ended up removing it, that the section itself should be be integrated into other parts of the article though --- though the the information should not be wholly removed (eg., the UNOCAL information is in popular culture now due to Fahrenheit 911 and it would be very odd to not mention it on Karzai's WP page). 99.245.173.200 22:02, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

is Karzai married? Divorced? Widower? Bachelor?
Just out of curiosity, is Karzai married? Divorced? Widower? Bachelor? I've never read anything about his immediate famly. Is it kept hush-hush for their safety? Kingturtle 01:42 Mar 14, 2003 (UTC)


 * A short Google short brought the answer: Karzai is married, his wife is called Zinat, and a doctor by profession. They were married in 1998 and have no children. Andre Engels 18:11, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

The Story of Karzai's Experience During the 2001 / 2002 American invasion is an Interesting one
Karzai took part in the fight to oust the Taliban in 2001 / 2002 with a force of Afghans fighters embedded with U.S. special forces and the story of his unit is a very interesting one. It would make a nice addition to this article. Karzai showed a lot of bravery as did the Afghan and American soldiers who fought alongside him.

71.208.230.97 14:43, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Politics
This article lacks information on what kind of politics he is running and what plans he have for the future, it would be nice if someone who knows more about this could add some. Does he support womens rights? How is is economic policies? Does he represent a political party? Passw0rd

Corruption?
I'm surprised there isn't anything about allegations of corruption in the article. A Google search for "Karzai corruption" gives pause for thought. --RenniePet (talk) 04:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Find a reliable source that addresses the claim, and add it to this article citing the source. Kingturtle (talk) 05:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes, I know how it works. But my own knowledge is minimal (just rumors I hear from Danish journalists) and my level of interest is not sufficient that I feel like investing time on researching it myself. My posting was intended as encouragement to anyone else who is more interested in the subject. There must be some background reasons why the situation in Afghanistan seems to be deteriorating instead of improving (although my knowledge is so limited I'm not even sure that is an accurate assesment). --RenniePet (talk) 12:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * How's this for a coincidence? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7222194.stm
 * "... they (the Taliban) do not control the roads nor the towns, but they hold the countryside and have increasing support because of the corruption of the administration." (my emphasis added)
 * --RenniePet (talk) 18:11, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The corruption is committed by the opposition groups to Karzai, his article should be left out from all that which will provoke edit-war here between different ethnic groups of Afghanistan. This article is dedicated to the person Hamid Karzai so don't involve the situation to him, it was Bush and America that started the war in Afghanistan. According to latest Afghan News, only about 4 (insluding Musa Qala) districts remained in Taliban control. The remaining 394 are in control of Afghanistan's government. The only critizm allowed in this article is one that personally involves him... others I will quickly remove.--203.175.65.191 (talk) 18:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Removal of content sourced with The Washington Post
Why was this line removed from the Former Taliban supporter section? It is from a new article from the Washington Post which is a well respected publication.

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On August 20, 1998, after an attempt by the United States to kill Osama bin Laden with a cruise missile, Karzai praised the Taliban saying,...there were many wonderful people in the Taliban.

Source:Two Myths About Afghanistan - The Washington Post
 * I added it back in. -- Esemono (talk) 14:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Please also replace the quotes with the cquote template. DurraniPashtun (talk) 17:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

French-speaker?
Hamid Karzai does not speak French. Someone should remove that false fact. DurraniPashtun (talk) 17:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I added a citation that supports the claim. Kingturtle (talk) 17:19, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Image
Image:Karzai at Parliament Hill.jpg has just been uploaded to Wikipedia Commons. Please integrate it into the article. Thanks. -- Reaper  X  00:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Spelling of his name in Pashto
I think his name here is spelt wrong, shouldn't it be کرزئ، and not کرزي? I'm not 100% sure though, any clarification? 92.237.59.74 (talk) 18:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

The spelling of Karzai's name in Pashto here is incorrect. The 'hard' ya (ي) represents the /i:/ sound, whereas the 'masculine' ya (ی) represents the /ay/ diphthong which is what is in Karzai's name. I will correct the spelling in the article. 212.9.126.251 (talk) 20:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Now shan't we just merge the two voweless names? 129.199.156.21 (talk) 21:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Assessment comment
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