Talk:Hannah Montana/Archive 1

Robbie or Robby
Is the dad's name spelled robbie or robby because both are used in the article.
 * Robby. Rhindle The Red 13:50, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

No, its spelled Robbie.

No, it's Robby. You can ask anyone. Jordan_pruitt22 11:42, 21 April 2007

No its robbie Lizzie Harrison 17:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Guys, who dosen't think it's Robbie? Atomic45 09:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Infobox!
What happened to the infobox? The page looks messed up without it. --Oreos 12:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what happened to it, but I fixed it by going back to an old version and copying the formatting. --   George    Money    Talk Contrib  s   21:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

well it is a very good show and i think it is fine the way it is, i like reality too.

It isn't reality telivision, I think Hannah Montana is a sitcom.What does does Reality TV have anything to do with the info box? Atomic45 00:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Episodes
Who deleted all of the info on the episodes? -- George Mon  e  y Talk   Contribs 01:06, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I dunno who did. Whoever did.....well I unno. --HannahFAN 18:39, 29 July 2006 (UTC)HannahFAN

There was one time I deleted the information on the UNCITED episodes, but I only deleted them because they were completley fake, such as Miley getting the bird flu and Miley getting hit by a limo. But I didn't delete the real episodes' information.

That must have been fake, I mean Miley getting bird flu?! Where did that one come from?Atomic45 00:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Why the heck would someone put on there that Miley got the bird flu or got hit by a limo??? I guess some people don't have anything better to do. Jordan_pruitt22 11:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

That is so true. Atomic45 09:57, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Page
Something happened to the page; in other words, why is half the page ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT? And why is there something like [!]] somewhere to the left? It looks messed up. -(User:0dd1) Noone 02:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, it's fine now - Noone aka 0dd1 16:03, 03 July 2006

Rico
Should Moises Arias, the actor who plays Rico, be added to the recurring cast since he's in two episodes already and might be included in more. Also Kyle Kaplan plays Chad the Chomper not Johnny Collins who is really played by Corbin Bleu in one episode. Rico should definitely be included, along with Creagen Dow as Donny who was in two episodes. I'm fixing this right now! Thefreakshow 23:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Unless your in almost all episodes, you shouldn't be added to the recurring cast.

Episode
Why in the world would you get rid of the episode part of the Hannah Montana section??? I worked REALLY hard on that!!!!!! love shelb
 * I think the episode section is not needed, but if you could put it into List of Hannah Montana Episodes, we could avoid a whole bunch of unneeded stuff. Bibliomaniac15 22:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Well duh, get rid of the episode section. Theres already an article on it.

Deleted material
A lot of material was lost between these edits. Anyone know why? CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 04:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

cleanup
This article needs clean up badly. suckz0rs!!! Bibliomaniac15 03:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Can I post a growing Hannah Montana RPG to the eternal links area?? We need more people! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.56.152.136 (talk • contribs) 17:44, 24 September 2006.

Would you mind if you give a link to this RPG? bibliomaniac15 02:55, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No, fansites are strongly discouraged per External links. Thanks for asking, though. -  Shannernanner   06:57, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

HEY!!! Bibliomaniac, it just isn't right to insult people you don't know, its a violation on the wikipedia rules!!!Atomic45 08:08, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Oliver
Who keeps removing the fact that Oliver has a girlfirend named Becca?He does starting in Ooops I Meddled Again and it's starting to annoy me.I have to keep adding it.Hmrox 14:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Errors and Goofs
At the end of this article it talks about how Miley and her Family just moved to Malibu But, in Oops I Meddled Again, Miley Said. "It's the only girl to like him (Oliver) since kindergarten." And looks at Lilly. Lilly says. "I only held his hand because I wanted his crayons. He had the 64 pack." Which means Miley was there when it happened or Lily told her the story.

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It may be possible that either Lilly, Oliver, or some other person told her about that. Although that is probably the only explanation, and I agree that it's a goof. Docsteel92 22:46, 09 August 2006 (UTC)


 * In the episode where the class goes on a camping trip, Miley Stewart is the only one who can put up a tent and she says it's from growing up in Tennessee. Pink moon 1287 21:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

yeah- and Miley did grow up in Franklin, TN and she and her family moved to La Canada Flintridge in dec. 2005

yeah but in Schooly Bully she mentioned that when she moved to malibu that oliver had spread a rumor that she ate possum so she must've spent quite some tome in tennesseeUrena198 20:44, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Gibberish
What is this strand of unintelligible gibberish supposed to mean:

The first promo for Hannah Montanna aired during January's, High School Musical, which was a huge hit. The show itself aired two months later. People loved musical Disney, and they wanted more. Hannah Montana brought it. This show was been planned for a while now but they just greenlighted it about 2 years ago.


 * I'm not sure when the first promo aired, but I do know the show's been in planning for a while. Miley started trying out for the part like two years ago.
 * Miley tried out shortly before turning 13- she got the part- and the show debuted on May 23, 2006 - the show hasn't even been on air for a year yet- WHAT ARE U TALKING ABOUT?????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????

Merge
The episode section of this article is getting rather large. Also, why are we putting the better formatted episode table in the main article of the show? Eventually it will get to big to keep in this article. Which article needs this table more, Hannah Montana or List of Hannah Montana Episodes? Bibliomaniac15 18:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

The table should be moved to List of Hannah Montana Episodes with a short summary and a link to an individual page for each episode. The longer summaries on List of Hannah Montana Episodes should be moved to the indidual pages. See List of Deadwood episodes for a good example. - Peregrinefisher 01:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the elaboration. Also, I would like to say that if you are uploading a picture, make sure you put an appropriate tag on it, or else it will be deleted, as with numerous pictures pertaining to Miley Cyrus. Bibliomaniac15 03:47, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Keep watch for vandals
Watch out for vandals in articles affliated to Hannah Montana. There's been a lot recently. Most vandals:
 * Have IP addresses
 * Have a blue "Talk" link next to them.

Remove or revert on site and give them a warning. I'd hate to see this page protected, but I will ask if need be. Bibliomaniac15 23:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

lyrics
The lyrics are shoddy and should be removed. If you need lyrics, go to a website. Try incorporating them into respective song articles. Bibliomaniac15 23:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I have deleted the lyrics, since they're copyrighted, and listing them here is a copyright violation. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:49, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

its a great show
you can complain all you want but when it counts tons of kids watch it and enjoy it

isn't that the main thing?

No, improving this article is the main thing. Bibliomaniac15 00:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

AND WOULD YOU HAVE ANY SUGESTIONS?

someone messed up this page fix it68.78.125.199 03:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC) Move the episode and episode title references sections to the right page, make the goofs section more encyclopedic, put more citations, and revert/remove vandalism. bibliomaniac15 19:02, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

huh?

The books
Shouldn't a part about the books based off of Hannah Montana be added to the page? They actually exist and I own one myslelf. link link link So far I've identified #1: Keeping Secrets, #2: Face Off, and #4: Truth or Dare. &Oslash;&#345; &ecirc;   &#333;&#351;  02:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

O.K That not a bad idea. Atomic45 10:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that there should be a section or maybe even a page on the books like there is for the game. I don't know enough about them to right it ... Mouseinthehouse 17:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

There is a page on the books but it wasn't very substantial, didn't have much content and wasn't catorgarized. I have improved it and added it to the disambiguation page. Mouseinthehouse 14:17, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Article for Deletion
Quotes (Hannah Montana) has been listed for deletion. Click on the link, then press this article's entry and place your opinion to keep, delete, or merge and redirect. For registered users only. Bibliomaniac15 00:45, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Fake Myspace accounts
Recently, I have noticed that someone keeps adding the link to Myspace accounts for Miley Cyrus, Emily Osment, and Mitchel Musso. All three actors have stated that have never had any accounts for Myspace, and that they never will have any account for Myspace. Anyone stating that they are Miley, Emily, or Mitchel are imposters. If you see any links for those Myspace accounts, please delete them. --SoapTalker 00:25, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, please remove the piczo sites from the external links, in accordance to External Links. Bibliomaniac15 03:17, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

FAKE!!! That is soooo downright lame if you ask me!Atomic45 08:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Characters/Episodes
The characters and plot summary are mentioned in the Plot section, why do we need another section that lists it, and is basically empty? It seems pointless. &mdash;User:Sevensouls 11:50, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It's the standard structure for a television article. Were not the sections so large they necessitated their own articles, they would be in those spots, so that is where one would look for them, and they are then directed to the pertinent spin-offs. -Shannernanner 12:07, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

The cast and characters should come after the plot and production, not before, as on the That's So Raven page. &mdash;User:Sevensouls 13:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Another page is not necessarily the precedent for structure. See Wikiproject Television for general structure guidelines. -Shannernanner 07:55, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

OK I got it now. That also means that characters comes before plot. Pink moon 1287 21:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Cite
Can anyone provide a citation that Lilly Truscott and Oliver Oken have relatives that have been revealed? bibliomaniac15 02:02, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Links inclusion: Official U.S. version is necessary.
The link on the external links section is the U.K. version and is in HTML. Shouldn't the U.S. official link be there? And the full flash version?

Add:


 * Disney Channel (U.S.) official site

Plus, if a user doesn't have Adobe Flash, they will be redirected to the install page anyway.--24.187.45.0 14:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The official version is in the infobox.  Shannernanner   15:03, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

1080i?
Is Hanna Montana really filmed in 1080i? Is there any sorce for this? I doubt it since the show is in 4:3 format, and disney is not a HD channel Mastercheif 23:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

by Marryane ALves in 6 grade No it was not. Twilight Sea 00:28, 28 May 2007 (UTC)Twilight Sea

Where does she live?
Where is her house? I would like to date her and any information would be helping for me :)Sup dudes?&#91;&#91;User:Kitler005]] 00:32, 17 November 2006 (UTC)- listen- miley doesnt want to date u - so go away- and she doesnt live in malibu


 * Please don't put frivolous discussion on the talk page. If you wish to find an answer, you may want to ask the reference desk.  bibliomaniac 1  5  01:07, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Adding, Kitler005, if you're talking about the set of Hannah Montana, it's not real. It's someone else's home. Second, Miley does not reside in Malibu, California. Last, this information is not for the general public to know. --24.187.45.0 00:31, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * SRSLY? I really need ta know, you know? Sup dudes?&#91;&#91;User:Kitler005]] 02:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC) PLEASE?Sup dudes?&#91;&#91;User:Kitler005]] 02:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Reorganization of 'Hannah' pages
I think the pages related to "Hannah Montana" need a bit of reorganization. Hannah Montana should be the disambiguation page, the show should be at Hannah Montana (TV series), the character needs to be either Hannah Montana (character) or Miley Stewart, since the "/" is discouraged.Rhindle The Red 05:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * We do need to reorganize. I think Hannah Montana should be the main show page, though.  Miley Stewart/Hannah Montana needs to be moved as you say, I say use Hannah Montana (character) and make Miley Stewart a redirect becuase HM is the more recognizable name of the character. - Peregrinefisher 07:12, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * If we can agree, then we should make a request at Requested moves get this done. - Peregrinefisher 07:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The reason Hannah Montana should be the disabiguation page is because if someone goes to the Wikipedia and searches for "Hannah Montana", you can't be sure if they are looking for the show, the person (Miley Cyrus or the fictional character) or the album. As for as which character should get the page name, I think "Miley Stewart" is a more accurate choice for the character, but I see your point about recognizability for the general public. Rhindle The Red 07:26, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * There will be a link to the disambiguation page at the top of Hannah Montana. - Peregrinefisher 09:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Removed the 'Impact on Society' paragraph
I removed the "Impact on Society" paragraph from the article. Carson6254 20:35, 30 December 2006 (UTC)Carson6254.

International
I've put all the info about broadcast of the show worldwide into a nice, simple table.60.50.164.206 18:38, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I live in Mexico and we watch it on Disney Channel( the one that has mexican hosts, not the ones from Argentina) your table does not mention that....

Removal of the character bios
I removed the character bios. They should be in their own articles, and they really were catching some fancruft.  bibliomaniac 1  5  01:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Hannah Montana Ending?
If Disney said that they bought just one more season... will hannah montana end?Pendo 4 02:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC) Pendo 4

Imma kinda glad, her voice is annoying. Does she have a retainer or something.74.195.3.199 05:10, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * She has braces behind her teeth, if that's what you want to know.  bibliomaniac 1  5  05:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

No WAY!Pendo 4 12:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)Pendo 4

WHAATTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Atomic45 08:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

How do U konw!!!!!!!!!!!!? Where's the proof???!!!!!!!!!! Urena198 20:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Rest assured, the show is probably not getting the ax. Now quit screaming! WAVY 10 01:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Who's screaming? Atomic45 00:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Look at the Hannah Montana Ending? and 2 Seasons sub-headings. WAVY 10 13:29, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

2 Seasons
why are these shows now only getting 2 seasons. POTF and Now this.74.195.3.199 05:09, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The article says AT LEAST one more season, meaning that there could be an option for the next season!

WAVY 10 14:17, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

PLAGERISM!! HELLO??? I STARTED AN ARTICLE THE SAME ABOVE!!Pendo 4 12:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)Pendo 4

Spending alert
Since Hannah Montana has had guests like Dolly Parton (and coming soon, Brooke Shields), is this proof that since Bob Iger became the chief at Disney, they are actually spending money on the channel's programming for a change?

If so, they might as well spend some of it on writers.

WAVY 10 14:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Maybe this is why they only signed to one more season...
I would think the show getting signed to just one more season (at the present time) is probably to use that it keeps Disney's options open in case the show flops during the 2nd season (a la Phil of the Future). WAVY 10 14:21, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * THE SHOW's not going to flop- michael poryes has some surprises for everyone- besides who doesnt LOVE MILEY CYRUS????????


 * I know I luv her! She rox my sox!!! Jordan_pruitt22 11:45, April 21 2007


 * Networks typically only order (at most) a season at a time. Broadcast networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, etc) often go in smaller increments (13+9 is quite common), and cable networks (TBS, FX, HBO, etc) are using even shorter seasons, which are common elsewhere in the world (such as the UK). Hannah WILL end, if not this year, then most likely next year due to Disney Channel's 65 episode (3 season) policy; which is what killed Lizzie, Even Stevens, along with others, and almost lost us Kim Possible if it hadn't been for the huge Save KP campaign. vmz 00:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Peer review
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Oliver said she ate a possum?!?!
I hesitate to delete things, but has this EVER been mentioned in an episode? I missed it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aspie1 (talk • contribs) 15:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

Yes in Scooly Bully Miley mentions that oliver spread a rumor when she first moved to malibu that she ate pussum.Urena198 20:51, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Gibberish?
In the Jackson Stewart section, this appears: tu pu tro meme si tu ne sert a rien du toujtou hahah ats

What is this??

Smonnie 10:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

What the?!Atomic45 00:24, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

"tu pu tro meme si tu ne sert a rien du toujtou" is French. I bet the hahah ats is just somebody being silly. Do you know who the user is? We should get this page protected! Many childrens TV shows, plus popular TV shows are being vandalisedHappykid536 23:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, wait a minute!
An unregistered user has been quite busy recently deleting information. At first some of it looked legit, with deleting the main character listing on the main page, but now most of the show information, foreign titles, even the category listings are gone. Watch for this user. 198.85.73.12 17:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I just went ahead and undid all those edits myself. Man, that's a tediuos job. 198.85.73.12 17:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

March 6th Edit Mess
Someone apparently earlier today started ransacking this page, leaving edits calling Miley Stewart a leabian and making references to "Faggot Stewart" (If you've seen the "Bob 'The Faggot' Saget" or "Danny 'The Fanny'" edits on the Full House page, you likely have an idea of what I'm talking about). Thankfully, those edits were cleaned up; but we probably need to keep an eye out for these vandals. WAVY 10 01:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Semi-protection
After all this recent vandalism, I just requested the article be semi-protected. WAVY 10 13:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Uncle Earl
He's mentioned a lot in the show, should we include this info in the article? Atomic45 00:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If so, I would keep it to a minimum, especially since as far as I know, he hasn't been seen. WAVY 10 14:00, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Sanjaya?
My sister heard somewhere that Billy Ray Cyrus was trying to get recently axed American Idol contestant Sanjaya (Yeah, that guy) to do a guest spot on Hannah Montana. Can this be verified?

WAVY 10 15:14, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

HENNY Montana????
Hey,

I've read that this show had some legal conflicts because there was originally going to be a show called "Henny Montana" for children, about a chicken who lived in Montana. The show never aired. Also, HM was also going to be named Kirily Tenesse, Alexis Texas, or Alicia Nebraska, but the Director said that Hannah Montana was short and sweet, and that Hannah's name didn't have to be an American state, Montana is just catchy. Is this true? I'm aorry, I can't site the website, the website was on the link of another website, and the website it was linked to was removed, and I can't find it. Happykid536 23:10, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The only name that rings a bell is "Alexis Texas". BTW, how can someone get "Hannah" confused with "Henny"? WAVY 10 14:05, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

They didn't get the name confused, they thought that the people who made HM forged Henny Montana. The information about "Kirily Tenesse" "Alexis Texas" and "Alicia Nebraska" are also in the Australian magazine "Strait Fate". It was in the aticle "Celeb miss-fits". I've seen these on about 12 different sites and magazines Happykid536 07:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah! I've seen it too. That should be added to the real article! Fatpat123

Miley's mom
How did Miley's mom die because the plane crash mentioned in the main article is just a rumor. --Robors 20:10, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

The show or show's website has not confirmed anything yet so I really do not know. I'm going to delete the part that says how her mother dies in the article if noone objects in the next week.Just a heads up!Urena198 23:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
Perhaps we should have this semi-protected? It's been hit alot today. Missjessica254 18:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, some of the "hits" have been by registered users, so semiprotect would not help much with that. Unfortunately for the registered users who repeatedly vandalize though - frankly it is easier to block them as vandalism-only accounts. Anyway normally semiprotect is used for anonymous IP vandalism that extends longer than just "today's lunch period", when the kids in the library at some school in Colorado get a little too much sugar and go a little crazy.  But yes - if it becomes an extended pattern over several hours and days, and by mostly anonymous IP addresses and newbies, then semiprotect might certainly cut down on the cleanup.  The best thing to do at this point is be aware of a "good" version in the recent archives, and simply revert back to it as needed if a pile of vandalism starts to form during lunch or after school.  --T-dot (Talk | contribs) 18:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Layout
Regarding the recent editing. I agree with most of the changes. However, it seems to make more sense to me to have the plot listed first. Particularly for readers who are not familiar with the show coming to see what it is all about. I'm going to make these changes based on reasons above. Missjessica254 18:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Copyright
I am trying to alert people to the fact that a not very well known page, List of Hannah Montana music videos, has links to YouTube music videos which are actually illegal under copyright laws. Is there any point in having a page where the entire content shouldn't be there? I am putting this comment on this page rather than that page because I didn't think anyone would see it if I posted it there. Mouseinthehouse 19:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Notable Appearances
Please stop deleting the reference to Larry David. He is notable, he made an appearance, it's staying on the page. Missjessica254 14:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello My name is Lauren and i don't have a wikipedia account but i think Hannah Montana is the best ever i watch the show every day.Im like the Miley Cyrus nimber 1 fan i know everything about her and i even went to see her live in London it was amazin!

Vandalism
Someone has wiped the page that comes up when you type in the search box Hannah Montana. I'm not very experienced at Wiki so can someone better do something!! Mouseinthehouse 16:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I think I fixed it but if anyone finds anything wrong with it feel free to change it. Thanks. Mouseinthehouse 16:10, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

List Of Episodes
Someone has tried to edit the list of episodes page unsucessfully. I can't do tables but could someone who knows what they are doing rectify it. Thanks. Mouseinthehouse 16:55, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Trivia Section
I have cleaned up the trivia section and dispearsed all the trivia into this and other articles. However this piece of trivia:


 * Before the show's premiere, Miley, Emily, Jason Earles, and Mitchel Musso hosted two promos with Ashley Tisdale, Zac Efron, and Vanessa Anne Hudgens from High School Musical on the set. There was even a dance-off between the two groups with Jason stealing the show due to his Riverdancing skills.

I can't find a place to put it. Is it really necessary. I will delete it for now but keep it on this page. Mouseinthehouse 14:39, 31 May 2007 (UTC)