Talk:Hans Guido Mutke

Just do it
Perhaps he should simply claim to have possibly "accidentally" broken the sound barrier prior to the deliberate and documented effort by CY and crew... Radiooperator 16:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Exactly, the X1 and CY should be given the credit as the 1st super sonic plane/pilot as it was specifically designed for the purpose, and not just a wartime fluke by a very lucky pilot - although the story is nonetheless interesting. If the Germans had actually been interested in breaking the sound barrier with a human in a powered vehicle it would have been easy enough to have strapped some poor Russian prisoner to a V2 - but what would have been the point when they were fighting for their very existance! 82.36.25.12 (talk) 09:27, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Featured on the Main Page on April 19th 2004 in the section "Did you know...":"...that Hans Guido Mutke claimed to be the first person to break the sound barrier?"

I just came across this page protected; there was no evidence of a dispute, no notice in the article, and no discussion on this talk page, so I've unprotected it. -- Seth Ilys 21:00, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * From the protection log: "07:39, 20 Apr 2004 David Newton protected Hans Guido Mutke". Maybe he clicked on the wrong button by accident. -- chris_73 00:41, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The Claim
The significant thing about Mutke's claim is not that he suffered buffeting. Buffeting was regularly reported by military pilots at high speed. The significant thing is that Mutke reported the buffeting increased as the speed seemed to increase in the dive and then suddenly stopped without the aircraft slowing and normal control returning. It is the sudden stopping of the buffeting and control returning without slowing down that is significant as this is typical of the smoothing out that occurs when supersonic flow is achieved over the entire airframe. He then reported that the plane slowed as the engines flamed out and the buffeting resumed. This is what happens when dropping back into the transonic region.GregOrca (talk) 13:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Presently I've counted 4 appearances of a description of crossing the sound barrier in this article. It is a redundant read. Once from the pilot's perspective and then maybe a second time abstractly to reinforce the phenomenal significance would be plently. BTW, after the 4th time "buffeting" is then defined yet again increasing the current explanation count to 5. I'm no expert. - Steve3849 talk 13:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

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Mach 20 Shuttle
The article mentions that the shuttle does not have an area-rule fuselage. However, does the shuttle fly supersonic in the atmosphere? I thought once it descended down to where atmospheric pressure was enough for it to use aerodynamic control, it was subsonic, or at least not "20 Mach."74.239.2.104 (talk) 18:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The Space Shuttle is (was) supersonic until very late in flight; note that it's still trailing a sonic boom when it enters Florida and only slows to subsonic in the last couple minutes of flight. However, the purpose of the Shuttle's entire landing glide is shedding velocity, not building it (the shuttle has very poor performance at low speed due to the shape of its wings, and indeed it lands at a very fast speed - not just for a glider but in general). La Maupin (talk) 13:02, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

“Mainstream opinion”?? Are you fuckin’ kidding me??
I know you wikitards still think that argument from authority is a valid argument (the whole concept of “notable sources” is built on that, and utterly unscientific nonsense), but now it suffices, if it is “mainstream opinion”? (Of course assuming US (read: TV aka. propaganda) mainstream (Of course assuming Wikipedia admin mainstream (Of course assuming your own very personal stream.).).)

And I know exactly, that you’re so stupid, you will think that that must mean I’m pro-Mutke. Because with your brainwashed Ameritard brains you can only think in binary false dichotomies of two utterly insane extremes. You’re literally not physically capable to comprehend anything else.

Yeah, and nobody gives a shit about your “messages” to an IP address, or locking the site down for good like you always intended. The messages element (as well as the creepy child-molester-eyes Jimbo Wales element) is banned by AdBlock, and nobody even took, takes, or will take your Nazipedia seriously anyway. Ever.