Talk:Haplogroup R1

Possible place of origin: Central or South Asia?
This edit by IP. Per "Origins" section, shouldn't we add both of them to infobox? --Wario-Man (talk) 08:33, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree that Central Asia should also stand. Given that the idea that it originated in South Asia is still highly speculative, we can't present it as being the definitive area of origin in the infobox. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 20:27, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think we should restore it like previous revision before IP's revision. --Wario-Man (talk) 07:43, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

There are by far too few aDNA-finds backing this bold claim "R-M207 and its subclades were most common along an axis from Western Europe to South Asia." HJJHolm (talk) 06:25, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * But this statement was based off of what keeps getting published, even if you are right, and Wikipedia works by summarizing what is published. OTOH it is not really very bold given that it covers one and a half continents?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 08:10, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Centum branch obsolete
No modern linguist or glottochronologist claims the existence of any "centum branch" of Indo-European languages. This view is outdated since 50 years....2003:7A:9F34:AB78:E81C:AB59:E90B:7BA8 (talk) 10:12, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * And yet it keeps appearing in works published by linguists.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 08:10, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

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Popular culture
Has anybody else watched the video which is referenced under the "popular culture" heading? While it seems to be depicting a Bashkhir legend, there is absolutely nothing which indicates that there was an intentional attempt to depict a kind of actual history of divergence between R1, R1a, and R1b. The YouTube channel associated with the video does not seem to belong to Artem Lukichev, whoever that may be, and the only other references to the idea that the film is supposed to be about R1 are reposts of the same video. It seems more likely that the channel owner uploaded the film with his own notes in the subtitles, pushing a personal theory that the legend could in some way be reflective of genetic history. There is no evidence that any alleged similarities were an intentional creative choice on the part of the filmmaker. The addition of the film to the Wiki article first appears on August 5, 2014 which is the same date the video was posted. My suspicion is also that the editor of the article, Bulat Muratov, may be the owner of the YouTube channel hosting the video as well. 75.97.28.5 (talk) 04:03, 22 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Same guy as above, typing from a different computer. I've finally gone ahead and removed the section because there's still no evidence to suggest that the filmmaker intended for this story to be a mythologized origin of Haplogroup R1. To the contrary, it seems that Bulat Muratov uploaded the film himself with his own subtitles pushing his pet theory. 216.15.85.135 (talk) 20:06, 9 December 2022 (UTC)