Talk:Haplogroup R1b

Schillaci 2020 (COVID resistance)
"and people belonging to this haplogroup could more likely be asymptomatic if infected by the virus SARS-CoV-2."

The citation for this is Schillaci (2020), but it's hosted at https://osf.io/yv8kc/. Does anyone know if this is a peer reviewed paper? Biomedical sources should be published in high quality journals. - Hunan201p (talk) 12:45, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Hunan201p It's a preprint so we shouldn't use it until we see that it's published and at that point decide if it's an RS.  Doug Weller  talk 16:18, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Doug. My thoughts exactly. - Hunan201p (talk) 18:15, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Copper age terms
Are these really three different but equivalent terms for the Copper Age being used in succession here? It seems needlessly confusing, unless there is some reason each term is preferred in each context? This section: “- An Eneolithic male buried at Khvalynsk, Russia c. 7200-6000 BP carried R1b1a. … - A Late Chalcolithic male buried in Smyadovo, Bulgaria c. 6500 BP carried R1b1a. - An Early Copper Age male buried in Cannas di Sotto, Carbonia, Sardinia c. 6450 BP carried R1b1b2.” 14.200.138.56 (talk) 00:30, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Removed stuff
@Joshua Jonathan removed list of notable carriers. List of notable people are common in Wikipedia. If there are sources that support that the cited individuals belong to R1b why removing the list? 151.38.149.52 (talk) 11:28, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

The earliest R1B (M343) appeared in the middle-East instead of Europe
It has nothing to do with the old kurgan theory and the often cited old research about it.

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/results

"The Y haplogroup R1b (M343) appeared around 12,000 years ago in the Middle East, most likely somewhere in the Levant (today Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan). These ancient forefathers were among those who developed farming in the area (but many other men of different haplogroups were also taking part.) We can distinguish three different subgroups with very different geographical distributions."

--Pharaph (talk) 11:11, 5 October 2023 (UTC)


 * During the last Ice Age, in southern Europe, there where three habitats that supported human life. Those being the Iberian Peninsula, the Dinaric Region/ Adriatic, and the area north of the Black Sea.  Due to the climate, people were locked into each habitat and over the millennia each group developed a unique haplogroup.  Can you tell us which haplogroups developed in each habitat?
 * Am I wrong in my understanding that the R1B haplogroup developed on the Iberian Peninsula? Ovo.Je.Istina (talk) 00:44, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * "The Y haplogroup R1b (M343) appeared around 12,000 years ago in the Middle East"
 * That's an outdated theory that is contradicted by ancient DNA. All of the oldest ancient R1b samples are from European hunter-gatherers (the oldest dating from 14,000 years ago), and R1b has not been found in any hunter-gatherer or Neolithic samples from the Middle East. Ario1234 (talk) 13:48, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Iberian theories have no basis.--Pharaph (talk) 12:28, 7 October 2023 (UTC)