Talk:Harbin Hot Springs

Revision Thoughts
I'm new to WikiPedia, and don't have time to do a good re-write at the moment, so wanted to put a few thoughts up here first: 1. The "Currently maintened by 150+ residents ..." sentenced appears twice in close proximity and should be revised. 2. The link to: http://jwester.cts.com/harbin.html appears to be dead, but can be found at: http://web.archive.org/web/20050317125308/jwester.cts.com/harbin.html If it is to be included, the text should include some mention of the Frontiers of Science / Harbinger University period in the late 60s to provide context. 3. The simply stated "After a decline in the 1950's, Harbin was largely abandoned until the early 1970's" may be a bit misleading as it was open for business at least several summers in early 1960s followed by the "Harbinger University" period. I'm not sure just how much historical detail is desirable, but I'd be happy to try to write a "very short summary" of the detailed history Klages wrote. For starters, Robert Hartley (aka Ishvara who still lives at Harbin) purchased the land in May 1972, and sold it to the newly created Heart Consciousness Church in Feb. 1975, and the local natives were known as the Lake Miwok. 4. Feel free to correct the "syle" of my date and ISBN citation of the 2 mentioned books. It may also be worth adding a reference to "Oneness in Living" by Ishvara (2002 ISBN 1556434138) which I believe dedicates ~100 pages to Harbin Hot Springs. --Havspace 07:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

"hippie cult" references removed
i've seen this here for a while, and i could find no documentation via the internet for it. if anyone can document it, that would be great, i dont want to try to "clean up" their history. also, there was a link to a poem, by an unpublished poet, alluding to the excesses. while i dont doubt the sincerity of the poet, its not a good reference for this material.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 19:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I was there during the hippie "cult" or Garbinger era. I am a published author. I am a notable Wikipedian. I stand forth as an authoritative source. The poem, by John Wester is accurate. I was acquainted with him. I will be reinstating this section. Removal of it is ridicuous. My name is catherine yronwode. You can look me up in Wijikipedia or at my own sites. cat yronwode 64.142.90.33 (talk) 19:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * my apologies for this deletion. i was hoping to find more info to support the material, and was personally very curious to learn more. i was in hindsight too hasty to remove the reference. i still think the poem is rather vague to use as a reference, but i swear i wont revert, as thats rude. more background, esp nonweb, printed articles, id love to see here. And i do know your name from the comic field. i used to read your publications avidly. i recognize your authority, as a member of the intelligentsia, period. i was going to try to flesh out some of the comic book articles someday from my memories. i especially think Jack Katz deserves an article. you recall the First Kingdom i hope. sincerely, and apologetically, Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * i added back the reference to the book that documents the previous owners of the property. i kept the language fairly neutral, not having read the book. any claims in the book that use language that is highly POV should be quoted if added, so the article here is NPOV. and im sorry, but a poem cant be accurate if its language is not literal. at least it cant be accurate in the sense of being a reference for others to use. i have read accounts of events that while not written in a documentary style, still captured the Zeitgeist for me. but i dont think its easy to include such documents in an encyclopedia. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:40, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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Merging proposal
Hi there! I am not sure it makes much sense to keep the Harbin Springs, California page as a stand-alone considering its very limited content, and the fact that it's quite redundant with the existing Harbin Hot Springs page, which History section is quite expansive and much richer than this page. Let me know if you have any objections to this merging. Thank you! Chalandray (talk) 19:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Article probably would not exist if it weren't for this establishment. One question would be whether or not to leave behind a redirect. North8000 (talk) 19:42, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Support merge, yes leave redirect. jengod (talk) 21:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)