Talk:Hard clam

Untitled
Is this article a stub? -Bannus 21:13, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * No, it is more of a start- or B-class article. --Gray Porpoise 21:10, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Following discussion, I have merged the hard clam and quahog articles. The material below was brought across from former quahog article on merger. It seems to me that the arguments against merger were really arguments in favour of calling the merged article "quahog" rather than "hard clam", and personally I don't have strong feelings one way or the other and will leave it for others to sort out. seglea 20:48, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I grew up in that area of the world: quahog is pronounced KO-hog, period. there are some real old-timers who say "kwahg" (rhymes with "hog") but I would attribute that to the same word accented on the second syllable, through the filter of their thick accents, like they say PAHK (sort of rhymes with "pock") instead of "park"


 * I've also lived in that area, and I've never heard heard "kwa-hog" (except for obvious mis-pronunciations). Has anyone?  If not, I think it should be removed from the article or mentioned in a parenthetical as a less common alternate pronunciation.  --Gruepig 16:04, 29 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I run quahog.org and have had reason to talk with a number of people about the pronunciation of the word. The most convincing explanation I've heard for the ko/kwa difference is this: The common name, poquauhock, is taken from the languages of the Narragansett and Wampanoag Indians, and it's thought that today's pronunciation can be traced to those origins. The Narragansetts, from the west side of Narragansett Bay, probably pronounced the word "po-kwa-hok." Today's western Rhode Islanders thus pronounce it "kwa-hog." The Wampanoags of the East Bay and southeastern Massachusetts called it "po-ko-hok," and today, residents of those areas likewise say "ko-hog." With few exceptions, my experience has born this theory out.--Cscm 15:05, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

The "never" bit about the pronunciation of quahog "Quahog (pronounced "KO-hog", IPA /kohɑɡ/ (never as "kwag", or "kwa-HOG" IPA /kwɑhɑɡ/)" seems wrong to me. Where I grew up and still live in RI it's pronounced "kwa-hog" but I do on occasion hear it the "ko-hog" way. I suppose it's a "toe-may-toe" "toe-mot-toe" sort of thing, and so propose the "never" be removed and the "kwa-hog" pronunciation at least be listed as an alternative. The online dictionaries seem to back that up as does the comment by Cscm and his quahog.org site (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quahog) (http://www.quahog.org/factsfolklore/index.php?id=43) (http://www.bartleby.com/61/11/Q0011100.html) CYRIC 18:29, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Merger
This makes sense to me - one species, one article. But whoever does the merger should take some care to place the article under the more common/global name. I always thought "quahog" was a regional name, but I have no hard evidence to back that up. | Klaw ¡digame! 22:38, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge Makes sense to me too. It is on Family Guy but I don't think there's an actual town named Quahog. Kerowyn 10:09, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

keep quahog
DON'T remove quahog article- its a very important cultural artifact in New England.

I say! Remove quahog,or merge? No. As a child, we clammed the area and were delighted to find quahogs. They were easier to discover and not the same as clams...keep the catagory - quahog.

quahogs and hardclams
there should be seprate articles for quahogs and hard clams, there should also be seprate ones for both cherrystones and littlenecks two. First of this is because there are distinct diffrences between these three catogories as any fishmonger or shellfisher will tell you, even though they are of the same species, especially in the case of quahogs. each of these catogories is in refrence to the size of the clam itself and also indicates how they will likly be used, and their individual qualities. littlenecks are the most prized being the sweetest and most tender of the three and are also the smallest and preferably are eaten either raw or as part of a sauce, or stew, almost allways regardless of how they are eaten they are enaten in there shell. cherrys are the medium size of the species these are not as sweet or as tender as little necks these too are often served in shell both raw and cooked. Quahogs are by far the largest of the three catogories. these are never, never served in their shell whole. they are almost allways processed before they are eaten and are never eaten raw or whole for that matter, a good way to chocke yourself if you tried. they are served as part of a stew or stuffed, and are never left to stand by themselves, as their meat has a quite unremarkable flavor, and is almost always spiced in some way, and can also be extreamly tough. futhermore quahogs are often harvested in the wild whereas littlenecks and cherrys are usally culitavated.

Stu Hamm
I added the part about Stu Hamm because it's true. Look it up, the song has his arrangement of "Linus and Lucy". Casual Karma 02:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Arctica Islandica
One really should distingusih between the Ocean Quahog - Artica Islandica, and the hard clam - Mercenaria mercenaria. Particularly because outside the greater Rhode Island region the word Quahog normally refers to the Ocean Quahog, as its natural habitat is the majority of the North Atlantic.
 * I've created an Arctica islandica article. Akriasas 07:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm going to be bold and move some of the quahog stuff to that page, and change the redirect as well. Akriasas 08:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * On second thought, maybe we should create a disambiguation page for that, as it seems quahog may refer to either... Anyways, I'll leave that up to more interested parties. Akriasas 08:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm a little bit confused as to why the entire second paragraph of THIS article has to be about the Artica islandica… it IS necessary to differentiate between the two, but the paragraph launches into facts about the Artica islandica that belong on ITS page, not this one. There is zero need to delve into the longevity of the Artica islandica on the page for the Mercenaria mercinaria. That, itself, is confusing and merely serves to perpetuate the conflation between the two species. 99.244.230.178 (talk) 17:24, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Littlenecks
Littleneck redirects here; however, here on the Washington coast, littlenecks refer to the Native littleneck clam, Protothaca staminea. Should this be noted somehow? There is no article for Protothaca staminea. Right now if someone from the West coast were to look for information on littlenecks, they'd get confusing information (since it'd be about the wrong clam).--H-ko 05:37, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Agreed. The Pacific littleneck is a completely different species and should not be confused with the Atlantic variety. Aside from the taxonomical difference, there's also a linguistic difference: "littleneck" refers to the west coast clam, while "little neck" refers to the east coast clam (the latter being named after Little Neck Bay). Ideally, the article should be edited to reflect this. The picture of "steamed baby clams" near the bottom of the page should also be edited, as it is, ironically, a picture of west coast littlenecks, not baby quahogs.Philozine 23:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Plagiarism
The part of the article that uses the BBC as its source is an exact copy of what is written in the original article. Douggers 04:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Quahog: oldest animal ever!
According to The Register an example found in Iceland was counted to be 405 years old (e.g. it saw William Shakespeare) based on its covers' ring structure. That is roughly twice as much as the 212 years recently found for a kind of giant whale. 82.131.210.162 11:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * That's the ocean quahog, a different clam than the one in this article. Akriasas 11:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Red tide section violates wikipedia standards
Written perspective seems biased, defensive, and lacking both information and formality. What fines are levied against commercial harvests, for example? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.10.142.105 (talk) 20:07, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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Eating raw clams
Can someone add to the section about Culinary use about how clams can be served raw? How do you get the shells open? Rachel Pearce (talk) 10:31, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Main title Quahog not "hard clam"
The quahog is native to eastern North America, and everybody calls them quahogs or littleneck clams. So why does everything else redirect to a term nobody even uses? 76.105.136.241 (talk) 19:35, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

That there are two types of clam called "quahog" seems reason enough to me… 99.244.230.178 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:20, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Cultural Reference
Does this page possibly need some cultural referencing to Family Guy, I've not looked for sources but surely it's not coincidental that the main town in Family Guy is called Quahog and a lot of the "lore" around the founding of the town involves Clams? Or is this link made elsewhere? (See season two episode 12 "Fifteen minutes of shame"). There is a disambiguation link for Quahog but nothing on this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leftred (talk • contribs) 22:10, 27 September 2015 (UTC)