Talk:Harriet Frank Jr./GA1

GA Review
The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.''

Reviewer: Cirt (talk) 02:15, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I will review this article. Cirt (talk) 02:15, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Stability review
No issues upon inspection of article edit history and talk page. Passes here. Cirt (talk) 05:44, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Image review
Cirt (talk) 05:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) commons:File:William Faulkner 01 KMJ.jpg - image on Wikimedia Commons, looks good.
 * File:NormaRaeUnion.jpg - Inadequate fair use rationale on image page. Please standardize image page using Non-free use rationale - making clear why it is fair use on this article.
 * File:Hud moviep.jpg - Inadequate fair use rationale on image page. Please standardize image page using Non-free use rationale - making clear why it is fair use on this article.


 * File:NormaRaeUnion.jpg - Inadequate fair use rationale on image page. Please standardize image page using Non-free use rationale - making clear why it is fair use on this article.
 * I've changed the image description, so hopefully it should be correct now. If it is I will go ahead and apply the same to the other image. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 21:14, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * File:Hud moviep.jpg = this one could still use work, per above. Cirt (talk) 13:27, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, but is what I have done for the other image adequate? I'm unsure about image descriptions etc. so confirmation would be appreciated. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 21:09, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes I think so. Sometimes others are more stringent, and others more lenient. Cirt (talk) 21:10, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I might actually suggest just removing these 2 fair use images. They are not really necessary to convey concepts that could be explained in text instead. Cirt (talk) 21:16, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well those two images were included to compensate in some way for the lack of picture of Harriet herself. If you think they're not necessary then I will remove them. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 21:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah that'd be good to remove them. Cirt (talk) 06:06, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 16:10, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks, will give it another pass soon. Cirt (talk) 16:12, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Wildhartlivie pointed out that the image on the page needs to have alt text added. Cirt (talk) 19:48, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note
 * It also needs to have the tag added to the commons page. Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:57, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay will do. Thanks for fixing the table as well. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 21:53, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The tag relates to "one or more identifiable persons alive or deceased recently". However, William Faulkner died in 1962, I don't see how this relates to his image? MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 22:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Good article nomination on hold
This article's Good Article promotion has been put on hold. During review, some issues were discovered that can be resolved without a major re-write. This is how the article, as of November 8, 2009, compares against the six good article criteria:


 * 1. Well written?: Good writing quality. Could use some copyediting though, by an editor or two not previously involved with the article. Could try WP:GOCE and also posting requests to relevant WikiProject talk pages.
 * I'll copyedit it myself and then pass on a notice to another user.
 * 2. Factually accurate?: Duly cited throughout. I'd remove the Google Books links from the References subsection, not needed for WP:V.
 * Okay, I was never sure on policy towards those kinds of links.
 * Removed.
 * 3. Broad in coverage?: Legacy section seems a bit skimpy. Could use some expansion, with commentary from critics on his performances.
 * Any sort of criticism will be incredibly hard to find, it's been a persistent thorn in my side while I've improved the article. I will expand the legacy, but perhaps talking about some of the films she produced would be as good?
 * Expanded and reworded.
 * 4. Neutral point of view?: No objections to tone presentation.
 * 5. Article stability? Pass, see above.
 * 6. Images?: Pass, see above.

Also an issue with a hanging third column in Filmography table. Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. After 48 hours the article should be reviewed again. If these issues are not addressed within 7 days, the article may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work so far. Cirt (talk) 06:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Cirt, I'll do my best to address these issues quickly. Not actually sure how to format the table; I did not create it, it was kindly made by another user. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 13:14, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * made a good point at my talk page, about use of IMDB in this article. Can a better WP:RS be used instead? Cirt (talk) 00:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm going to begin removing the IMDB references and replacing them as advised by AnmaFinotera. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 15:25, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Comment: It appears above issues have not yet been fully addressed? Cirt (talk) 07:12, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No not fully, I've done a bit more, but my weekend was incredibly busy. It may take a bit longer for me to update the article. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 17:46, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, keep us posted here. :) Cirt (talk) 18:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think there are any big issues with references remaining; any further references would merely add credence to the article. If you do think there are any statements where there needs to be a reference, please say, and I'll add one right away. I do have one issue: the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences result pages "time out" after returning to them. This renders them as useless as a reference currently. Is there any way to fix this? A permanent address? MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 19:36, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Passed
Good job on implementing above suggestions. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 11:51, 10 December 2009 (UTC)