Talk:Harriet Hemings

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The novel Clotel was not based on the story of Harriet Hemings. It was inspired by an item, very likely fictitious, in the abolitionist newspaper Liberator about the supposed auction of Thomas Jefferson's daughter in the slave market in New Orleans. Jefferson appears in the first edition of Clotel, but in later editions the slave owner is a senator. It is clear that William Wells Brown, the author of Clotel, had no knowledge of Harriet Hemings and her departure from Monticello. Virginia Historian (talk) 13:44, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * People disagree about this. Some literary historians do think Clotel was inspired by accounts/allegations of Jefferson and his children by Sally Hemings.

In his memoir Bacon did not name a Carr as the father of Harriet Hemings. He claimed to have seen a man leaving Sally Hemings's room, a man who was not Thomas Jefferson. The interview does not identify this mysterious figure. Virginia Historian (talk) 13:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The Jefferson grandchildren, Thomas Jefferson Randolph and Ellen Randolph Coolidge, named Peter Carr and Samuel Carr, respectively as the fathers of Sally Hemings children, likely to account for their known resemblance to Thomas Jefferson. Their assertions were conclusively disproved by the DNA results - there was no match between the Eston Hemings descendant and the Carr line.Parkwells (talk) 02:47, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

No primary sources
Editors have meant well in this article, but are not supposed to be using primary sources to build your arguments, such as the writings and memoirs of Bacon and Randolph Coolidge. You are supposed to use published, reliable secondary sources, such as academic historians on the order of Annette Gordon-Reed.Parkwells (talk) 02:47, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Paraphrase
Some of the material sounds as if it is copied verbatim from the Monticello website, but I have not checked it yet. Editors have to use such sources as references, but must paraphrase material, or else indicate it is verbatim by using quotation marks. The Monticello material is copyrighted; it is a private foundation, not a government agency.Parkwells (talk) 02:47, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Jefferson-Hemings controversy
There is an article in preparation. Meanwhile, people may check at the Thomas Jefferson article for a section on Sally Hemings, her children and the controversy about Jefferson's paternity. There is also an article Jefferson DNA data about the DNA study.Parkwells (talk) 02:47, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

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