Talk:Harris Manchester College, Oxford

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Contesting Harris Manchester is the only college in U.K. Higher Education dedicated solely to the education of mature students. -- see Hughes Hall, Cambridge; Wolfson College, Cambridge; St Edmund's College, Cambridge for other examples.
 * I have heard tales that there are other colleges OUTSIDE (!!) of Oxford and Cambridge (such as Birkbeck College, London) fulfilling a similar role for mature students, although this is so shocking that I can hardly believe it myself. Can anyone substantiate this wild rumour? ;-) Badgerpatrol 02:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty certain that Birkbeck takes non-mature students (it only offers part-time courses, and it used to [I don't know if it still does] only take students who had a job). I don't know of any other college that takes only mature students; do you have any other examples in mind?
 * Graduate Colleges don't count, of course; the notion of a mature student applies only to undergraduates (the definition used to be that they had to be twenty-five or over; under twenty-five but with full-time jobs counted as Independent students. Again, I'm not sure of the current regulations). --Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 22:08, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Lucy Cavendish at Cambridge only takes mature female students, both undergraduate and graduate. Accordingly, sentence removed. - CJW

I'd like to clarify: does the college take graduate students who are younger than 21? - Yossarian85 03:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

No, as can be deduced from a quick glanceat their website —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.69.90 (talk) 17:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Motto
I re-translated the College motto Veritas, Libertas, Pietas as 'Truth, Freedom, Piety' rather than the previous awkward and partly inaccurate translation which read 'Truthfulness, Freedom, and Dutifulness' - Veritas does not really mean 'truthfulness' but simply 'truth.' Pietas means more than 'dutifulness' - especially in the religious context of the College's origins where Pietas almost certainly referred to religious piety rather than duty. Jm3106jr (talk) 11:21, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

George Berkeley
I have removed the bullet point "George Berkeley, stayed at what is now the Wedgwood & Bentley house from 1752 till his death" from the section "People associated with Harris Manchester". IMHO the fact that he shortly lived in a building curently used by HMS does not make him "associated". I guess the Wedgwood & Bentley house was renamed Sekyra house. Next to the plaque "Bishop George Berkeley philosopher 1685 - 1753 is perceived to have lived and died here." a new plaque "Ludek Sekyra house 6th November 2014" was added. JanSuchy (talk) 16:20, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

location 1803-40
What authority for saying New College Manchester was based in York for those years ? John Dalton was on the staff, and he lived in Manchester Rjccumbria (talk) 17:13, 18 February 2016 (UTC) Belay that Q - I was misled by an inaccurate claim elsewhere in Wikipedia that somebody had been educated at Manchester in the 1810s, being taught by Dalton at New College Manchester. On further investigation, Dalton left the college in 1800 (yet another STEM qualified teacher finding the pay inadequate) and the pupil (according to other obituaries) was educated at the Leaf Square Academy, Pendleton (not at all clear that he was taught by Dalton, either )Rjccumbria (talk) 18:50, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Smallest College?
The article says Harris Manchester is the smallest Oxford college. Aren't both Nuffield College, Oxford and All Souls College, Oxford smaller in terms of student enrollment or am I missing the size metric which is being used in this article?

Atchom (talk) 21:32, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * claims that Harris Manchester is the smallest Oxford college have been repeatedly added to and removed from the article, possibly because they are either inaccurate or excessively detailed. The December 2018 numbers on the university website (https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/student-numbers?wssl=1) show that Harris Manchester is the smallest Oxford college which admits undergraduates by total student numbers. Nuffield College is smaller, but is a graduate college. All Souls College only has fellows, some of whom take postgraduate degrees. Green Templeton College only admits graduate students, but accepts students studying graduate entry medicine who are counted as undergraduates in the university figures (see https://www.gtc.ox.ac.uk/students/academic-support/clinical-teaching/). TSventon (talk) 12:21, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

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Only 3 student run college bars?
Linacre college definitely had a student run bar which has not been included in the list 82.4.136.163 (talk) 13:22, 28 June 2022 (UTC)