Talk:Harry Schell

Nationality
As he was born in France and lived there into his 20s, shouldn't he be considered French rather than American?--MartinUK 12:33, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * His mother was American and Schell carried American citizenship by birthright. He served in the American Army in the Second World War, considered himself American despite his cosmopolitan lifestyle in France and broken English, and proudly wore the American flag on his helmet.  Sounds American to me, don't you think?


 * That having been said, I also make no apology having just about reworded and rewritten a considerable amount of this page. The previous quality was simply abhorrent; it read as if someone took a handful of facts and newspaper headlines about Schell and pasted them together, and I felt he deserved better.  While I do agree with Wikipedia's citation requirements, certainly this site should not be sacrificing quality in an unachievable quest to cite every finite detail of every article. 72.221.107.101 (talk) 23:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Nonetheless, the citation policy exists and must be adhered to. I've reverted your recent changes - why not produce a version that at least makes use of the existing references, but improves the quality of the writing? Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 00:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * So far as his nationality goes, as far as I know he raced under the American flag, so that would be the defining factor, rather than where he was born or where he lived. 4u1e (talk) 00:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Several drivers race under flags of countries they are not citizens of - Ralph Firman and Andy Zuber come to mind straight away. As for the cites, we can't realistically be as strict for someone who died half a century ago. Only dubious or potentially libellous statements should really have to be fully cited in this situation - it's a shame to revert perfectly good work.--MartinUK (talk) 10:33, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Re: the reversion, I may have been a bit harsh. The two versions were a bit hard to compare easily, so I took the view that removing citations is bad! Apologies, I think I was rather tired at the time. Regarding flags, what I meant was that Schell raced under the American flag, which seems to match what you say above, so I guess your original comment was referring to something else? I'm happy to be enlightened! :) 4u1e (talk) 17:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've sort of gone back to 72.221.107.101's version, but have edited to fit more with house style. I have assumed that the refs from the previous version were accurate, and carried them across where possible. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 17:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

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