Talk:Harry and the Potters/Archive 1

cleanup
Reads like a promo poster --⁪froth T C  19:59, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

image
This article used to have a nice promo image, but it was removed because Wikipedia doesn't like fair use images or something. --P4k 21:56, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It was removed because there was a free alternative. I personally don't entirely agree to this policy, but in this case it has something to it. Regardless, I'm going to a Harry and the Potters concert this week and I'll be sure to take lots of photos. --Fbv65 e del / ☑t / ☛c || 17:01, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

minor vandalism fixed
Album title read "Voldemort Can't Stop the Cock!" Corrected it yesterday, May 7. Andchimeras 22:33, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * There's no need to report changes you make on the talk page of an article (although the comedic value of this particular piece of vandalism might be worth noting at WP:BAD). --Cheeser1 00:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Dewikilinking redlinks
Redlinks should be de-wikilinked. Someone is making album articles but if they aren't up within a week the relinks should be delinked anyways. As for the rest of the redlinks: please say if you are going to write an article. If nobody speaks up within about a week, let the dewikilinking begin. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  23:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Ages vs. year of birth
Consider replacing ages with the year of birth. If this article goes stale, ages become incorrect. Ages at a particular time, like "28 when the song was written" don't have this problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidwr (talk • contribs) 02:32, 18 July 2007
 * I've replaced with year of birth and used Template:Birth date and age. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 23:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I was looking for something like that, instead of resorting to "ages when a song was written" or something. Good edit. --Cheeser1 00:52, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Music/MUSTARD
Editors should follow this standard. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 22:47, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

GA review
First, my comments: There's a lot to do with the article before it's appropriate to promote it to GA so I'm going to fail it for the time being. Feel free to work on it and renominate it when you've dealt with the points above. The Rambling Man 16:35, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comply with WP:HEAD for section headings.
 * Comply with WP:CITE for positioning of references.
 * See WP:LEAD - the lead intro should adequately summarise the article, it goes into some level of detail that really isn't required.
 * Copyedit required (e.g. "...the two band members dress (in in the full V-neck sweater and maroon and gold tie fashion of wizard-school Hogwarts[4]) and claim to be the book's titular character." - makes little sense.
 * Band members section should be prose, not a list.
 * Why is "The PotterFace" emboldened?
 * One citation in whole Lyrics section is not adequate.
 * "Harry and the Potters prefer to play in libraries, but will perform almost anywhere they are invited, as long as it is not too far from the tour route." - is this an advert or an encyclopaedia article?
 * If the Other Bands section is so relevant, it should be included in the main body about the band members. Also, do not use external links in the main section of the article.
 * Ref 7 is not appropriate as it requires registration to read the article.
 * The media and external links section need serious pruning down.
 * Thank you for taking the time to GA review Harry and the Potters. The points you made will help when I and others work on it. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 22:50, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've completed a very extension revision based on the reviewers comments and Good Article criteria. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 23:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

GA comment
I'm not reviewing the article for GA, but I would like to say that the career section is a bit hard to read as it it now. It's a bit jumbled, and the paragraphs are rather fragmented. The first part of it could be broken up a bit, and the second could be more condensed (including trimming the block quotes because they ruin the flow, plus the two pitchfork articles are kind of redundant), but the last part looks fine to me. The lyrics and reception section look nice and well-formatted. Also, the external links don't need citation-style formatting. No point in listing access dates. Sdornan 04:13, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Album covers
An editor objected and I removed the images. I don't know the Wiki policy on album covers. If anyone can make the appropriate argument, please do so. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 12:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, looking at Wiki policy as of 2007, album covers -unless specifically released - can not appear in discographies on a fair use rational. The relevant policies and guidelines are:


 * 1) Wikipedia:WikiProject Music where it says "Do not use album covers in discographies, as this is an unnecessary use of images and is not compatible with Wikipedia's fair use policy"
 * 2) Wikipedia:Non-free content where it says "An album cover image as part of a discography. A discography is a type of list, and such usage of images on a list normally does not significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic.

So, unless we get a release for the cover art, they can't appear in the discography ...but they can appear in the text if someone wishes to make reference to them. See policy and guidelines: Some copyrighted images may be used on Wikipedia, providing they meet both the legal criteria for fair use, and Wikipedia's own guidelines for non-free content. Copyrighted images that reasonably can be replaced by free/libre images are not suitable for Wikipedia.
 * 1) Policy where it says "Significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. Non-free media files are not used if they can be replaced by text that serves a similar function."
 * 2) Examples of acceptable use where it says:

Cover art: Cover art from various items, for identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item (not for identification without critical commentary).

So, album cover must sit next to critical commentary in the text. Not in the discography. That's Wiki policy. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 22:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Second GA review
I have taken on Harry and the Potters for a further review under the Good Article criteria, as nominated on the Good article candidates page by Wassupwestcoast. Apologies that it has taken so long to get round to this; the number of nominations always seems to exceed the number of reviewers!

Where an article is not an outright pass, but requires relatively minor additional work to be brought up to GA standard, I will normally place it on hold - meaning that editors have around week to address any issues raised. As a precaution to prevent failure by default should this occur, if editors are likely to be unavailable over the next ten days or so, feel free to leave a message on my talk page so we can arrange a more convenient time for review. Regards, EyeSerene TALK 10:39, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

GA on hold
I have now reviewed this article under the six Good article criteria and have commented in detail on each criterion below:

1 Well written FAIL

1.1 Prose

This is mostly good, flows logically and is pleasant to read. Some points that need addressing are given below:


 * In places the prose is, if anything, too informal. It needs a thorough copyedit, but to give some examples (these are not exhaustive!):


 * "Outside of the lab, Paul was a musician whose indie band - The Secrets- had toured in the northeast from 2001 to 2002. But the band had just broken up and Paul's musical side found its outlet as a co-founder of a small indie label called Eskimo Laboratories." Sentence starting with 'But'.


 * "The barbecue concert was a bust..." This could be expressed less idiomatically.


 * "It's hard to tell them apart, except Paul sports the studded leather belt." Avoid contractions (It's > It is). Also the sentence grammar could do with improving here.


 * "Their friend Ernie Kim from the Boston math-rockers Tristan da Cunha helped on drums." This is an example of an over-informal tone. Maybe instead, something like "Percussion was provided by an acquaintance of the band, Ernie Kim of the Boston math-rockers Tristan da Cunha."? (also note italics for the band name, and maybe a wiki-link for "math-rockers" if such a thing exists?)


 * The article over-uses the word "kids". This, again, is an informal colloquialism with different meanings in American and British English, and should be replaced by something more definitive and suitable for an encyclopedia (eg "young people", "teenagers", "adolescents" etc).

1.2 Manual of Style

The article adheres to the MoS: it is well wikilinked, complies with the recommended section order and layout, and citations are formatted using the appropriate templates. The only issues I have here are...


 * The sub-headings in the Career section are not really appropriate for an encyclopedia. They all need a rewrite ("Lit-rock: a concept not just guitars and nice haircuts" is the worst offender; it is ungrammatical, not particularly neutral and reads like it came from a magazine). A few things to bear in mind whilst doing this are:


 * "Beginning of wizard rock" may be inappropriate for its section, as this is only briefly mentioned at the start (although I realise that the band started the genre).


 * Headings 1.2 and 1.5 to a large extent duplicate each other.


 * "The Potter Mobile: 13 000 miles of wizard rock" is too short a section to have its own heading.


 * "Harry Potter: isn't it just a fad?" Headings should not be posed as questions.


 * The citations for the newspaper quotes (in the "Lit-rock: a concept not just guitars and nice haircuts" section) should come at the end of the quote itself.


 * Italicisation of band names is inconsistent throughout the article (eg second paragraph of "Libraries, bookstores and fan conventions")

2 Factual accuracy PASS, but see comment

The article is generally well-sourced, and makes good use of its sources. However...


 * The Post-Standard quote in "Beginning of wizard rock" either needs a citation, or should be removed if one can't be provided (because it is a direct quote, which must be sourced).

3 Coverage PASS

The article covers its subject well, and remains focused throughout.

4 Neutrality WEAK FAIL

This is a tricky one. At present the article reads almost as a fan-created piece. This is not a criticism of the editors, but a consequence of the informal writing style and the positive slant of the article, other than a very minor criticism in the "Reception" section. It may help to include more musical reviews of the band - with a few albums under their belt, I doubt that all the reviews have been 100% positive (in fact, I found this after a couple of minutes on Google, although the source is borderline). However, if there are genuinely no balancing comments from reliable sources, I'll withdraw this objection ;)
 * Critical reviews added and the priece re-written for a more formal style. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast

5 Stability PASS

The article shows no signs of instability or edit-warring.

6 Images PASS

The image used is appropriately captioned and bears a suitable license.

As a result of the above concerns I have placed the article on hold. This gives editors up to a week to address the issues raised (although in some circumstances the hold period can be briefly extended). To help with tracking, editors may like to strike through each comment as it is dealt with, or use the template ✅ after each comment. I realise that there is quite a lot to deal with, and I suspect some GA reviewers would have failed the article outright. However, it seems only fair to give as full and honest a review as possible (especially considering the time this has been on the GAC list!), so I'll be flexible with the reassessment date ;)

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions or are ready for a re-review. In any case I'll check back here in seven days (around 5th September). All the best, EyeSerene TALK 17:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the great comments. I think it will be possible to address them all. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 02:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've tried to address all the GA reviewers concers. More references were added including critical comments and reviews. Sub-headings were re-worded and re-organized. The piece was re-written for style. Hope all is well. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 22:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I think you've done an superb job, and the article is very nearly there. For convenience' sake I've undertaken a minor copyedit - mostly to bring the band names, album titles and the odd date into line with the MoS - and a couple of points that need your expert attention struck me:


 * *I commented out a sentence in the Harry Potter fandom and fan conventions section (5th paragraph) because it is an opinion. I don't know if this can be salvaged; if it's quoted opinion it could be rewritten (eg According to X, Harry and the Potters have been at it the longest, and thus have had more time to make peace with the idea.). Otherwise it might be best to lose the sentence.
 * *The first paragraph under Influence has a quote from the Washington Post followed by a partial quote. (There's a touch of the Ramones in their ultra simple lyrics.") It looks like something has gone missing here during editing.
 * *From the same section, paragraph 3: The brothers have vast quantities of both passion and ability to engage an audience: - this too is POV opinion; it may be true, but unless someone has said it (see first comment above), we can't use it ;)


 * If you can address the above points, I'll be happy to pass the article. Great work! EyeSerene TALK 17:00, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your very good review. I've addressed the three outstanding issues. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 17:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

GA pass
Congratulations on an excellent copyedit on the suggestions provided. I have now passed Harry and the Potters as a Good Article, and listed it as such on the Good Articles page under Arts > Music > Performers, groups, composers, and people related to them. For the record, Wassupwestcoast contributed significantly to this GA pass (with 5 or more major edits since the start of the review process).

Great work - well done! EyeSerene TALK 17:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC).
 * Thank you. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 17:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Now for a feature article.. not really.. Hpfan9374 05:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

2006-present -- 2006-2007
The Harry Potter fandom and fan conventions (2006-present) subtitle was changed to Harry Potter fandom and fan conventions (2006-2007), so I have reverted it. If you would care to look at other bands histories, such as Linkin Park or U2 for example, they use 'present' and not '2007'. Also, who is to say if the The Harry Potter fandom and fan conventions part of the band's history will end this year, I may expect it will, though it may not so 'present' must be used. Hpfan9374 12:20, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The Manual of Style is not exactly clear about this but does say:

Avoid statements that will date quickly, except on pages that are regularly refactored, such as those that cover current events. Avoid such items as recently and soon (unless their meaning is clear in a storyline), currently (except on rare occasions when it is not redundant), and is soon to be superseded. Instead, use either:

more precise items (since the start of 2005; during the 1990s; is expected to be superseded by 2008); or an as of phrase (as of August 2007), which is a signal to readers of the time-dependence of the statement, and to later editors of the need to update the statement (see As of).
 * So maybe 'present' is OK. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 12:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks! Hpfan9374 05:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Wizard Rock EP of the Month Club
thumb|250px|right|A montage of the album covers from the Wizard Rock EP of the Month Club.I believe a paragraph or subheading related to Harry and the Potter's work on the Wizard Rock EP of the Month Club, should be noted. I am currently creating a montage of the album covers, therefore do not create one yourself.

This club may not be worthy of an article of its own, therefore I would strongly suggest it be merged into part of this article. I am uncertain of its place among the contents though, and for that reason it may only receive a paragraph among the Wizard Rock fandom. -- Where is the correct position for this? Hpfan9374 00:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I am currently moving forward with the creation of this paragraph under the the History>Harry Potter fandom and fan conventions (2006–present) subheading. Please move this paragraph elsewhere, if necessary. Hpfan9374 00:50, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What is written so far looks good. Where the text is now seems a good location or it could be moved down into the wizard rock section. I agree that it doesn't need its own page. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 01:41, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Firstly, thanks for the approval and comment. However, I may have changed my view of things, in terms of article creation and now believe it is worthy of the paragraph and its positioning within the Harry and the Potters article AND an article of its own, I am now to do much research on the notability of this matter. Hpfan9374 04:47, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The article has been deleted along with all releases within the club, I am now appealing and am working with the guidelines to recreate the articles. Hpfan9374 00:33, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I have "given up" trying to create this article, it just isn't notable enough.. Hpfan9374 08:38, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that but I'm afraid I'm not surprised. Oh well, can always improve Harry and the Potters :-)  Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 12:40, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Template:Harry and the Potters
I have created a Harry and the Potters template, which I have inserted into the article. If you have any questions or queries regarding it then leave a message here or at my talk page. Hpfan9374 01:02, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Template looks good. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 02:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No problems at all mate. First time I've ever done it aswell.. Hpfan9374 02:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks to User:WOSlinker who redeveloped this template, looks utterly outstanding now. Hpfan9374 06:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Tours & Other Projects
These are two new subheading that should be created. As I am now, I want to try and make this article a feature article. Tours could include the Summer Reading & Rocking Tour 2006 and the Summer Tour 2007, and I believe these tours warrant an article of their own also.

Other Projects, should be a pretty interesting subheading, and I think it could include: I believe these projects each warrant a second class subheading under Other Projects. Aswell as these projects, Wizard Rock EP of the Month and Eskimo Laboratories should also warrant second class subheading.
 * Ed in the Refrigerators
 * Seph
 * Semi-Conductors
 * Ponies in the Surf

The Other Projects subheading got me thinking.. 3. Other Projects 3.1 Musical Projects 3.11 Ed in the Refrigerators 3.12 Seph 3.13 Semi-Conductors 3.14 Ponies in the Surf 3.2 Collaboration Projects 3.21 Eskimo Laboratories 3.22 Wizard Rock EP of the Month

The third class subheading are not very pleasing to the eye therefore I was thinking something like this: 3. Other Projects 3.1 Musical Projects 3.2 Collaboration Projects

We could simply create a paragraph or two of each and place them in appropriate subheadings.

Also I am having some thoughts on: 2 Music 2.1 Influence 2.2 Lyrics 2.3 Activism 2.4 Reception 2.5 Wizard rock

I was firstly thinking simply to change the subheading name of Music to Musical style however then Activism and Reception would then have to be placed elsewhere.. therefore I am not certain about this. Hpfan9374 01:58, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Your ideas are ambitious and good. I was going to try and take Draco and the Malfoys to GA status but I don't have the time right now. Why not take them to GA and then create a wizard rock page and take that to FA. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 02:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, to be honest, I am not a huge Draco and the Malfoys fan and regarding Wizard Rock, I have never created a musical genre article.. Sorry but I think I'll stick to this article for now. Hpfan9374 02:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't consider Draco and the Malfoys to be your arch-enemies :-)  Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 02:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Activism>Harry Potter Alliance Darfur project
I have added another paragraph into the article under Musical style>Activism. Hpfan9374 02:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Members
I have included Andrew Macleay to the Current members section of the Infobox and Tristan da Cunha and Ernie Kim into the Past Members section. Hpfan9374 00:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Tristan da Cunha is the band that Ernie Kim is a member of. He was sort of on lone. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 02:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure! I thought it could have been something like that because it states he was the third member and I was like, but theres two people.. Thanks for fixing it! Hpfan9374 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 21:53, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Wizard Rock EP of the Month Club (Image)
I have placed the above images into the Harry and the Potters article under, History>Harry Potter fandom and fan conventions (2006–present). The coding to me looks satisfactory, however if it against Wikipedia standards to use such coding, I will remove it. Hpfan9374 22:01, 27 September 2007 (UTC) It was my understanding that album covers aren't supposed to be included in bands' pages as discographies/selected works/galleries. See here. --Cheeser1 08:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I have updated the montage to include Roonil Wazlib's Putting Fluffy to Sleep. Hpfan9374 08:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * This is my understanding of Wikipedia policy too - not that I agree with it. As I understand it, album covers can only be included with a "reception" section about the particular album. Something like "Rolling Stone thought such and such an album was the best ever" ...cue picture of album. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 12:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Audio Problems Fixed
I have changed the template for which the audio samples were using to sample box start variation 2 as it is more suitable, and if you care to look at them, they do shorter in length and do not stretch the article vertically. Hpfan9374 23:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I noticed that the old version seemed to have a problem. Good work. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 00:01, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yer, I have been trying to fix it for a while now, I was looking through another musicians article, when I saw the template, and I tried to use it.. Hpfan9374 03:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

New references
Some new references that might have material for the article.



Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 00:10, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Great, let's get to it! Hpfan9374 03:19, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

For the band's 2003 self-titled debut album..
I have inserted the above template into the article, as I felt it was neccessary. Many other band articles which have released a self-titled album have it. It is also use to stop confusion. Hpfan9374 03:22, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Tour images
I have posted three new pictures into the article as it lacked photographs. The images are from the 2004 Tour, the 2005 Tour and the impaled "Potter Mobile". These subjects required images, atleast I think so. Hpfan9374 10:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Wizards and Muggles Rock For Social Justice!
I have been informed of this new-ish complication album Wizards and Muggles Rock For Social Justice!, I believe it was released before The Enchanted Ceiling, however I am unsure. I have contacted Cheap Rent for more information.. Hpfan9374 09:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Spelling: "Ed in the Refridgerators" - correct in this case
Just to avoid confusion, editors may wish to note that the spelling with the added D is correct in the case of the band name "Ed in the Refridgerators". It seems to have suffered in the past from being "corrected" which, while I sympathize, is - in this case - wrong! :) 138.37.199.206 07:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Definently, it is the band's choice to spell it incorrectly. Hpfan9374 07:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Peer Review
I have submitted this article for a peer review, as I felt it was vital to achieve feature article status. Hpfan9374 06:25, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Jingle Spells
A new upcoming complication featuring Harry and the Potters, is to be released in November/December, I have added it to Template:Harry and the Potters and Harry and the Potters discography articles. The release itself should be worthy of an article aswell as Wizard and Muggles Rock for Social Justice!, however it has been deleted? Hpfan9374 23:51, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Unless we can find reviews in popular magazines, then it will always be hard to establish notability for an new article and the article will be deleted. I check Google News for anything new. Today, Dutch newspapers have articles about Wizard Rock, Harry and the Potters and Harry Potter Alliance, but I don't read Dutch. On the other hand, there is this article -  - about the Harry Potter Alliance - in English- that could be added to Harry and the Potters. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 13:14, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Featured article candidate
Harry and the Potters is now a FA candidate. Comments will be made at Featured article candidates/Harry and the Potters. Anyone who wants to guide Harry and the Potters through the FA process should put the page on their watch list. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 19:51, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Revising the text
Taking the comments of the FAC reviewer, I'm now revising the text. I have gone through the first sub-heading and will continue all the way through. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 23:07, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Great. I have also added two paragraphs under Harry Potter fandom and fan conventions (2006–2007) and Activism. Hpfan9374 (talk) 06:08, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Found Many References
I have found an archive of many reference that may be applicable to the article. here. Some are for other wizard rock bands, however a large amount are solely on Harry and the Potters. Hpfan9374 (talk) 00:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

References not working
(At least) two references is not working (the link). They are the references number 2 and number 4. They are both used to prove many facts, and therefore, this is quite a big problem. Leo Johannes (talk) 18:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Wizard rock task force proposal
The idea of a Wizard rock WikiProject was proposed almost two years ago. Now that there are two more bands and a few more Harry and the Potters releases with articles, it would benefit to have a wizard rock task force. There just thirteen articles related to wizard rock, however the task force will not only be a place that improves these articles, but will also be a place to gather sources, build new articles in collaborative sandboxes and discuss uploading the mass of photographs related to wizard rock to WikiCommons (from Flickr). The task force will be under the umbrella of WikiProject Harry Potter.

To get involved within the task force or discuss it, see here. Alex Douglas (talk) 14:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Re-worked lead
Harry and the Potters are an American indie rock band from Norwood, Massachusetts. The group is composed of Joe and Paul DeGeorge, who perform under the persona of the titular character in the Harry Potter series. Harry and the Potters perform a style known as wizard rock and are known for their elaborate live performances, and going through a number of drummers. Because of their influence, Harry and the Potters developed a cult following within the Harry Potter fandom.

The duo founded the independent record label Eskimo Laboratories, and starred in the documentary films We Are Wizards and Wizard Rockumentary. They also co-founded charity organisation Harry Potter Alliance, and formed their own ep of the month club sydnication, the Wizard Rock EP of the Month Club, and later collaborated with many wizard rock musicians. Alex Douglas (talk) 15:27, 14 April 2010 (UTC)