Talk:Hartley (unit)

Suggested merge into Ban (unit)
It has been suggested to merge this into the article Ban (unit). I completely disagree because the international standard name for this unit is hartley, not ban. I would support the opposite merge (of ban into hartley). Dondervogel 2 (talk) 23:08, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Agree with merging Ban (unit) into Hartley (unit). The SI unit is both more official and more well known.  Dicklyon (talk) 23:13, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose merge of Hartly (unit) into Ban (unit). Support merge in the opposite direction (i.e. I agree with both Dondervogel and Dicklyon above).  A minor point: hartley does not appear to be an SI unit, but it is unit specified by the International System of Quantities.  It also appears to have superseded the ban as a name for the same unit, the ban having been an early suggestion. —Quondum 13:36, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Since we all agree, I hope someone will just do it. Dicklyon (talk) 18:16, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

✅ --Olexa Riznyk (talk) 20:02, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

First use of "hartley" and "dit"?
The article already discusses the origin of the term "ban" (Turing/Good in 1940), but not the origin of the terms "hartley" (probably coined not before Hartley's death in 1970) and "dit" (probably coined not before 1947/1948 when Tukey/Shannon used the term bit). So far, the oldest source given for "dit" is from 1970, but this certainly isn't the earliest usage of the term. So, if you find "hartley" or "dit" being mentioned in old sources, please add them to the article. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 21:22, 18 April 2020 (UTC)