Talk:Haru Kobayashi

Family
In the retirement section, the article suddenly makes reference to a "bad man" and the spell he had on Haru. It also makes reference to grandchildren. This is confusing, as it never makes mentions marriage or children. Was this "bad man" a husband or partner? Were these Haru's grandchildren, or children of her adopted daughter? This needs clarification. Boneyard90 (talk) 18:37, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the question. The bad man was the massager (who already had a wife) who was like a bully-like man of Sumi. Sumi had proposed adopting her and living with Haru and Sumi and the massager totalling 3 persons. Haru paid money for a house. The wife of massager went into the house (namely, stole the house). The three persons moved to Takase Spa. In the Spa, Haru gave money to the massager in return on the condition that other gozes could move there freely. This bad man was like a bully (of Sumi) and at the Spa, Haru's money was taken freely by the bad man. There was an unbelievable story, but I translated it as exact as possible. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 12:17, 17 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Does the bad man have a name? Boneyard90 (talk) 17:43, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The Japanese version described him only as the massager. Her difficulties concerning money exploitation continued into the postwar years, and ended when the man became ill. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 19:40, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * According to Kobayashi Haru and Kusumi Kawano, The last gose. Kobayashi Haru in search for light, NHK publishing, 2005, p. 197, it was in 1958, when Haru was 58 years, that M-o(Name of a man starting with M, the bad man) developed brain hemorrhage. Haru moved with Misa, to break the spell of M-o, and met Yoshi. Kawano guessed that the reason why Haru could not break the spell of M-o would be that she felt the night life of her pupils(M-o had sexual relations not only Misu, but also Michiyo), although Haru lost the function of a woman completely long ago. 20 years before and after the end of the war were the peak of womanhood of Haru. These sentences are guesses and should not be written in Wikipedia. In another book on Haru, a woman writer wrote that goze women were very intimate at night. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 23:57, 21 September 2012 (UTC)