Talk:Hashimoto's thyroiditis/Archive 1

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Do we have any citations for the symptoms? That's quite a few to have no citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.108.239.42 (talk) 15:52, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

My sister has recently been diagnosed with this disease and after some research we have found a link between consuming soy and this disease. If anybody has any information on this, could you please post it on this page. (anon 2-dec 2005)


 * Here's the closest I can find: --Arcadian 04:40, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Hashimoto's is regarded as an autoimmune disease. Arcadian has found a study, but it is not the final word in scientific terms. suggests no health consequences on that basis of having soy formula, but this was not powered to specifically detect thyroid disease.

Autoimmunity is poorly understood, but it is accepted that it's a combination between genetic predisposition and exposure to epitopes that sensitise the immune system to particular substances, after which it cross-reacts with the body's own proteins. The trigger of autoimmune thyroid disease is not known, as opposed to e.g. coeliac disease. Hence, I don't think you should sue the soya company for not making this clear on the label - the evidence is not very conclusive. JFW | T@lk  02:15, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

"... conferring a relative risk of 3 in the UK" <-- What does this mean ??
 * it means that in a u.k. study, those with this predisposing factor had a 3x greater risk of developing the disorder.Toyokuni3 (talk) 18:09, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

I just found out that I have this Hasimoto's and understand but than don't get it all lot to take in! Any advise for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.198.231 (talk) 21:06, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

The famous people section
I know this may seem strange, but I noticed on several cancer pages - there were people listed... and I thought that hashi's is sort of a silent disease that nobody really talks about...nobody is really an advocate for - and nobody knows what it can do. As anyone who suffers knows, it can cause depression and weight gain (Even if treated) - so when I heard that Anna Nicole Smith had it, it was somewhat comforting to know...

but, if you find this inappropriate... then you can delete it.

Yeah except Anna Nicole Smith commited suicide. Somehow not as comforting to know anymore... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.31.183 (talk) 04:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

That's exactly right, not comforting at all, this disease sucks! Nobody knows what Anna Nolce Smith's TSH was at the time of her death in her autopsy report.


 * Replace the dose of thyroxine correctly (ie have some monitoring blood tests) and the patient should be fully well - underactive thyroid or removed by I-131 therapy or thyroidectomy surgery is really immaterial (as far as then subsequent continuing well being is concerned, alothough obviously a hurdle for the patient at the time) provided correct replacement therapy is then acheived. David Ruben Talk 12:07, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

microchimerism
I've found numerous references on the internet to Hashimoto's thyroiditis in research papers about microchimerism. Perhaps this article should mention the possible microchimerism from pregnancy link? - Dougher (talk) 03:33, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Why is it treatedby thyroxine only?
Shouldn't Triiodothyronine also be replaced? DavidFarmbrough (talk) 16:57, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Because T4 is converted into T3 in the peripheral tissues 82.10.78.130 (talk) 10:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Please be aware though that some people cannot convert the T4 to T3 so need to take both in order to feel well and gain their full health      1 June 2008

Current 2014 American Thyroid Association (ATA) guidelines don't support routine combination therapy, but there is some weak evidence that T3 and T4 administration in a ratio that mimics normal physiological levels may be beneficial in select patients. The potency of T3 greatly increases the risk of over-correcting and causing hyperthyroidism, its metabolism makes it much trickier to dose, and there's conflicting evidence that the 5'-deiodonase polymorphism actually influences T4 conversion in vivo. (it does: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=19190113 it doesn't: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=16144953) tl;dr we don't know if T3 supplementation is useful or not and T4 monotherapy is sufficient for the majority of patients Emma a goldman (talk) 04:53, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

requesting a youtube external link
i've recently found a video on youtube regarding the disease that i find pretty entertaining and informative. when i tried to link it, it was denied because of the youtube address. its not promotional, commercial, copyrighted... whatever else wiki is concerned about. if someone wants to help out, or link it to the main page:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hBOK4j6m0U4

thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.105.209.53 (talk) 03:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Problem is that Youtube is not WP:Reliable sources, apart from perhaps exceptional circumstances. David Ruben Talk 12:04, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Needs to be differentiated from Ord's hypothyroidism more
THis article needs to better explain the differences between Hashimoto's and Ords better. It is not consistent on its definition of it. At first it says Hashimotos is caused by T cells then later says it is caused by antibodies. Ords is defined as Antibodies causing it however.

199.91.37.33 (talk) 13:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)June 19th, 2009

Cyclothymia reference
Hello,

I have Hashimotos.

This sentence is illogical in its categorization of Cyclothymia and Bipolar Disorder:

"Hashimoto's thyroiditis is often misdiagnosed as depression, cyclothymia, PMS, and, less frequently as bipolar disorder or as anxiety disorder."

Cyclothymia is a type of Bipolar Disorder. Bipolar is a spectrum disorder, meaning it goes from mild to severe. Cyclothymia represents the mild end of it.

To be accurate it should read "less frequently as Bipolar Disorder 1 or 2". Or "less frequently as more severe form of Bipolar Disorder."

I have had a website and forum about cyclothymia for 8 years (cyclothmia collective). I come up against this lack of understanding that Cyclothymia *IS* Bipolar all the time. Please help me clear up this misunderstanding.

Kizgikate (talk) 20:04, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you would be a good person to make the change here. (Ask not for whom the bell tolls.) --Bobbozzo (talk) 07:02, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Hashimoto?
Who is Hashimoto's thyroiditis named for? Just wondering --206.77.151.192 (talk) 21:08, 24 November 2009 (UTC) Never mind... that'll teach me to post before I read the entire article. --206.77.151.192 (talk) 21:09, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Living with Hashimoto's Disease for 15 years now
[request for medical advice removed]

If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. Sincerely, [name removed] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.21.180.217 (talk) 00:36, 13 October 2011 (UTC) I dont really do this, but recently my own Hashimoto's has kicked up and it's back to the doctors. I have seen hundreds.When I was 4 they discovered I have Hashimotos and there was a tumor on my thyrod. Scared my mother to death. They thought it was cancer. That was 51 years ago, and if what they told my mother was true, Im about the 8th or 9th child known at the time to have it, not a great thing, lived at ucla med center just about. I have had it so long until the last few months I really have ignored it. I dont recommend that, but it doesnt have to be the awful depressing disease everyone seems to think it is.It sure is better them most you could have. Good Luck to you
 * Sorry, but Wikipedia cannot provide medical advice. Please see Medical disclaimer. Article talk pages are for discussing the improvement of articles, not for discussing the subject matter generally. You should consult a medical professional instead of us.  Sandstein   04:58, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I propose that Autoimmune thyroiditis be merged into or with this page Hashimoto's thyroiditis. The ICD-10 clasification is the same and Autoimmune thyroiditis is also a small page. I think is best to takeover the name of the page and redirect Hashimoto's thyroiditis to Autoimmune thyroiditis. Radical gabriel p (talk) 12:24, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Postpartum thyroiditis is a sub-category of autoimmune thyroiditis that's distinct from Hashimoto's. That autoimmune thyroiditis page needs some serious help, though... haha, put that on my to do list. Emma a goldman (talk) 05:03, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Incidence discrepancy
in the intro paragraph it is stated that 5% of the population suffers from hashimoto's. first of all, that is highly unlikely, and i suspect the reference is misquoted. BUT,in the epidemiology section, an incidence of 1 to 1.5 cases/1000 population is stated. much more likely, but the real point is they can't both be right.Toyokuni3 (talk) 18:14, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * User:Toyokuni3 Ref says "The frequency of Hashimoto's disease is a growing trend and among Caucasians it is estimated at approximately 5%." This appears to be lifetime risk.
 * Also see  Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 00:35, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Citation for levothyroxine treatment
The current version of the page says, “regardless of whether or not hypothyroidism is present, can be treated with levothyroxine”. However, the page cited for that treatment only says: “Hypothyroidism is treated by replacing the hormone that your own thyroid can no longer make. You will take levothyroxine […], a thyroid hormone medicine that is identical to a hormone the thyroid normally makes.” The citation only supports treatment with levothyroxine when hypothyroidism is present; the claim that it can be treated “regardless” needs an additional citation. 74.123.72.118 (talk) 20:52, 29 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I notice that the version of the citation archived from 2016 does seem to support the cited claims, but the live version of the cited page does not. Has the recommendation for that treatment been rescinded, or is that still a current treatment regime (which needs a current citation to support it)? 74.123.72.118 (talk) 21:12, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Yup the archived version supports.

It also says "Hashimoto’s disease, with or without hypothyroidism, is treated with synthetic thyroxine, which is man-made T4."

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:12, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Managing hormone levels
The current version of the page says “In the event that hypothyroidism is caused by Hashimoto's thyroiditis, it is recommended that the TSH levels be kept under 3.0.“ However, the cited source seems to imply that that is only a proposed recommendation, not a medical consensus. (See the section headed “The TSH Reference Range Controversy” in the live — not archived — version of the cited article.) 74.123.72.118 (talk) 21:21, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

This edit
Added "brain tissue is gradually destroyed"

Which ref supports that? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:06, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Contradiction between statements in the sections "Epidemiology" and "History"
Please help with the following contradiction between two sections in this article. The "Epidemiology" section states: " It is more common in regions of high iodine dietary intake..." Whereas, the "History" section states: "... a condition (hypothyroidism) more commonly seen in areas of iodine deficiency that was occurring in the developed world..."

Obviously, only one of these would be correct, wouldn't it? Is there something that is missing? Or, perhaps, I'm the one missing something? Thank you! DaCentaur (talk) 02:34, 1 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaCentaur (talk • contribs) 02:32, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

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Not seeing were in the ref this is supported

Some research suggests a connection to the role of the placenta as an explanation for the sex difference.

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:43, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Super fascinating but literally published this month. Maybe more appropriate to feature cutting-edge research on the broader autoimmune disease page? Emma a goldman (talk) 05:08, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

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