Talk:Hasim Rahman

scorecard at knockout?
I'd love to see information regarding the judges' scorecards at the time Rahman was knocked out. Sometimes this info is available, and it would be interesting to know who was ahead since Rahman might have gotten the decision if he'd just been able to stand up for 44 more seconds. I've seen the fight and it's very possible that Rahman had a 2-3 round lead, so even with 2-3 knockdowns in the 12th round he might have still ended up ahead on points. Unfortunately, HBO had a different announcing/production team this time, and there were no CompuBox statistics, which would also be interesting to see since even the announcers agreed this fight's score was hard to predict. JimmyTheSaint 16:15, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * According to the BoxRec website, two of the judges had Maskaev ahead after 11 rounds (106-103, and 105-104), and the other had Rahman ahead (106-103).  It was close enough that if Rahman had won the last round, it would have been a draw.  However, Rahman did get knocked down early in the 12th, stumbled to the mat again, and spent the rest of the round holding on to the rope and trying to clinch.  If the ref hadn't stopped the fight, the final round would have to be scored 10-8 for Maskaev, which would have given him the win by split decsion.  That was a great fight, and you're right in suggesting that it was very close before Rahman just ran out of steam in that final round.   Anson2995 16:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, here is a picture of the official scorecard. Anson2995 15:36, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Not a Convert
Rahman was not a convert to Islam. His official biography describes him as a "lifelong muslim" see examples at,. Anson2995 23:05, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Rahman exhibits both speech and behavioral patterns that indicate he has a significantly below-average IQ. Conversely, both of the Klitschko Brothers and Lennox Lewis exhibit speech and behavioral patterns indicating an above-average IQ. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.113.132.51 (talk) 06:56, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

^^Nonsense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.97.189.195 (talk) 00:57, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

It is true Hasim is not a convert to Islam. His father, John Cason, is a convert. As for Hasim's intelligence, I find such comments demeaning and inappropriate. Unless you have specific evidence of a below-average IQ, such as an IQ test or a referenced opinion of a medical or psychiatric professional, then you should not make such accusations. I traveled with him and his father on Umrah during Ramadan in 1999 and observed him reciting Qur'an and learning tajweed of Qur'an. Such abilities do not indicate a below-average IQ. Malis61 (talk) 14:07, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

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