Talk:Hawthorn Football Club/Archive 1

Member counts?
In the Membership base section, it says "In 2005, the Hawthorn Football Club had 31,927 members." but below in the table the membership for 2005 is listed as 29,261. I'm not sure what the correct number is, but it's probably just easier to say "Below is a list of annual memberships for the Hawks" or something, to avoid having to update the heading each year. RoscoHead 01:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

2000's
does it relli have to be split into seperate years? there isnt that much information in them. --Dan027 12:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

'Tassie' Hawks
The nickname of the Hawthorn Football Club is 'The Hawks', NOT 'The Tassie Hawks'. The naming rights sponsorship with the Tasmanian Government does not change the nickname of the team any more than Toyota's sponsorship of the Adelaide Crows makes them 'The Camry Crows'. If Hawthorn is to be referred to on this page as 'The Tassie Hawks' then all other clubs should equally be referred to by their naming rights sponsor.
 * i agree, could people stop changing the team nickname! --Dan027 07:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Err no. Not all clubs should be named after thier sponsors because not all sponsors have bought naming rights. The Hawks and crows are just about the only clubs who have those agreements.


 * The Tasmanian Government has bought naming rights for the club, therefore they are the Tassie Hawks
 * See the Wallabies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_national_rugby_union_team


 * The page says they are known as the Qantas Wallabies, because of the naming rights deal.


 * To keep uniformity, this page should be edited, along with other clubs that have naming rights. NimChief 12:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The nickname listed in the info box is Wallabies, although i do agree with how it then says Nicknamed the Wallabies or currently the Qantas Wallabies for sponsorship reasons, i would be more then happy with making a similar change to this article, i will make this change in the next few days if no one else has a problem with it --Dan027 12:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, Nimchief's argument is factually incorrect on all levels, all clubs have naming rights sponsors. For example before the Tasmanian sponsorship, HSBC bought the naming rights for the HFC and thus the club was occasionally referred to as the 'HSBC Hawks.' Before that it was Samsung, hence the 'Samsung Hawks'

Off the top of my head the current naming rights sponsorships are;


 * 'Vodaphone Lions'
 * 'Western QBE Swans'
 * 'Camry Crows'
 * 'Primus Kangaroos'
 * 'Primus Demons'
 * 'Ford Cats'
 * '3 Bombers'
 * 'LG Dockers'
 * 'Vodaphone/Alan Scott? Power'
 * 'Leaseplan Bulldogs and the list goes on....

Acknowledging 'Tassie Hawks' as anything more then a sponsorship is not only misleading by factually incorrect - assuming articles on the other 15 clubs don't acknowledge their naming rights sponsorships as a nickname. Not only that, but it is misleading to readers without prior knowledge of the deal - which being an online resource for many AFL 'virgins' should not be the aim.

To this end, I just removed the note that says that Hawthorn is to be 'formally known as the Tassie Hawks from 07 onwards'. The club remains the Hawthorn Football Club - if you have any doubts about this please refer to the fixture on the AFL website.59.100.150.252 08:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

NPOV
this article is starting to read even more like a press release on the Hawthorn Football Club then a neutral encyclopedia article. --Dan027 09:18, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but if the latest addition - '2007' - which I agree does have a hint of bias was deleted, would that signficantly improve the reliablity of the source?

origin of Hawks nickname
As far as I'm aware, the Hawks nickname was given to the club in 1943 by then coach Roy Cazaly, not in 1950 as stated. Mustard Pot 01:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)