Talk:Hazzanit

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This article has been "proposed for deletion" by Tim1357 because "Wikipedia is not a Dictionary; this entry would be better off in Wiktionary". I respectfully disagree. (Full disclosure: I created the entry). If all the entry had was a definition, I would agree that perhaps it does not belong in wikipedia. However, the entry contains a fledgling list of "chazantes", which I hope will be expanded, as well as some remarks of the history of the phenomenon (which I also hope will also be expanded). --PloniAlmoni (talk) 14:15, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree completely. The wording of the article made it look like a dictionary definition, but it seems that its more then that. It was a goof on my part, and thanks for being civil about disagreeing! :), when I check new pages, I have to work very quickly, and I admittedly skim to save time. Tim1357 (talk) 15:12, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

spelling
The word I hear used in Israel and what seems grammatically correct is Chazanet (Cha-za'an-eet). As it is spelled now it reads Cha-za'an-teh. I'd like to change it unless I'm misunderstanding something. Joe407 (talk) 04:44, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe that the word comes from Yiddish (where it is indeed called "chazzante") rather than Hebrew.--PloniAlmoni (talk) 13:56, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd like to support my position with http://www.he.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/580458 and http://www.kipa.co.il/kolech/show.asp?id=34941 and http://www.art-text.com/articles-728.htm Joe407 (talk) 11:58, 16 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Update. As such, I'm going to move this page to Chazaneet with alternate spellings. Joe407 (talk) 05:03, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't find the proofs compelling. The references you cited are all in modern Hebrew. I admit that in Hebrew the term is Chazaneet. However, I see no reason to prefer the modern Hebrew word to the Yiddish term, which was widely used in the mid 20th century (e.g. Sheindele di Chazante). --PloniAlmoni (talk) 11:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * OK. You'll see that I've included both possibilities in the article.  Would an article name of Chazante/Chazaneet be acceptable under WP naming convention?  And then have redirects from both possibilities.  Joe407 (talk) 09:39, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Dual subject articles - naming question
This article Chazante covers both Chazante and Chazaneet (two different job titles). What should the name of the article be? Joe407 (talk) 12:01, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The term "chazaneet" doesn't have any reliable sources in the article as of now. So the title should remain and that term needs to be sourced.  (I got 0 non-WP ghits for it, but it may be that one needs to search it in Hebrew, something I cannot do.) —  æk Talk  03:07, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

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