Talk:Headbanging

Accuracy disputed tag 10/18/2010
I put on the tag(while not logged in) since doctors have talked about children who are headbangers(bang heads against the wall while sleeping for a long time.Best wishes, Rich (talk) 00:11, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * That disputed fact has a different meaning than that of current day. However, I find your skepticism to be reasonable regardless. By the way, I changed the tag that you put up there to make it less imposing on the page. It was one of those page/section beginning tags at first, but then I made it like one of those superscript things. Thanks for your contribution. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 02:40, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Stereotypic movement disorder24.7.28.186 (talk) 12:03, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello. Thanks for the contribution to the article, but I reverted it because headbanging is a controlled response to music that is usually associated with metal music. Thus, I do not see this type of headbanging as a connection to stereotypic movement disorder, where the movements, as I observe, are either consistently self-injuring, out of one's own control, or a combination of the two. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 21:38, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes but someone may be looking up headbanger but not for the music, for the medical problem. Wikipedia should refer them to the right article.--Richard peterson24.7.28.186 (talk) 11:07, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay, good point. I think it's a good enough point for me to place a note on the top of the article page for anyone trying to research headbanging on wikipedia for medical, non-musical reasons. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 21:07, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I was wrong to have tagged it as accuracy disputed. Although you modified it to the more restrained "dubious", the article does give several alternatives, thus it's not claiming absolute truth, and it has some citations. Now that the two meanings of headbanging are distinguished and a link is provided, I'm less worked up about the pre 1969 use of the whttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Headbanging&action=editord with the medical meaning. So, how about we remove the tag?Rich (talk) 23:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I can do that. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 02:40, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Possible additional image(s)
I think this would be a good addition, but I'm not sure it's quite a good enough sequence. This isn't from one continuous "headbang", and the middle photo has the head in a position that is not quite aligned with the top and bottom. Basically, I was rapidly shooting pictures while he rapidly moved his head back and forth, and this is the most illustrative sequence I got. I think it should be someone else's call other than mine whether it would be a useful addition. If people think not, I think someone else should shoot something similar and try to get a better sequence. - Jmabel &#124; Talk 06:22, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I think there is a pretty good concept behind that series of pictures. I do understand your concerns about this issue, and how the sequence might not be "quite a good enough sequence". I don't know if this particular sequence should be on the page, due to continuity issues, but I'm not disliking the idea per se. I will start some discussions on wikiprojects concerning this. Thank you for the input. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 23:53, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

"Bangover"
There have been recent additions of the definition of the word on this wikipedia article, all of which have been reverted so far. There are successful results at urbandictionary.com, where the definition presented here is something along the lines of "the after effects of participation in a metal, punk, or hardcore show, which can especially affect the neck". There is also another definition on urbandictionary.com of "bangover" which is something along the lines of "the consequential effects of participating in sexual correspondence". Also, "Bangover" is a Municipal Waste song off of the album Hazardous Mutation. I'm suspecting that it may not be notable to mention here, due to its informal, slang nature, although I am welcome to other opinions about it. Also, it's notable to point out that I've never seen urbandictionary.com sourced on here. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 00:57, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Brain damage
Read somewhere a while ago that shaking your head fast actually kills brain cells or damages connections -something like that- was a new medical discovery or something. Someone should maybe look into it, find a source and put it in the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smart Nomad (talk • contribs) 21:52, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your input. If I come across something of this nature, I will want to put it on this article. Feel free to do it as well, if you want to. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 22:04, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Style inaccuracies
Taken from the article: "Headbangers' bodies usually bang with the head, reducing the strain on the neck and making the body move in a serpentine, up-and-down fashion to the music"

I find this statement to be misleading and referring to a scene exclusive variant, rather than the original form of headbanging which does not synchronize body movement with the head. The basic definition is more along the lines of "a physical response to heavy music in a repetitive up and down motion of the head, outlining the tempo of a song's particular part. It is most notably supported, though not restricted, by straight 4/4 meters. Long hair is said to augment the headbanger's visual effect."

This format allows for better inclusion of every style that followed and understanding their contrasts. The body/head synchronicity mentioned in the article's original text applies more strictly to post-90s "urban" conscious bands and the Nu Metal subgenre, most notably in Finger Eleven and Korn videos and live performances. I would also add, though this creeps into POV, that the body movement and jumps help make headbanging more "flashy" for those with shorter hairstyles, a trait quite common in Nu Metal and Metalcore fans/musicians. Of course, it has also been done with everything from long to wildly dreaded hair, but my point remains.

Then there's another headbanging style, most commonly favored by Black Metal and Death Metal enthusiasts, known as windmilling. The head moves in a swing circular movement and requires very long hair to be worth doing in the first place. This type of movement also allows to follow every second beat or so and/or works well with drum patterns heavy on double bass. The result is a helicopter of hair and a show favorite everywhere.

Taken from the article: "Another popular style of headbanging is windmill headbanging."

Awkward paragraph conclusion, no attempt at an explanation for the fan and outsider alike. I rest my case.

What I'm trying to say is there is plenty of info to either flesh the paragraph out, or keep it short and sweet, but that would require a more accurate, all-encompassing definition like the one I suggested. Anyway, I leave it to the authors to use this as a source of leads in the goal of rewriting that portion of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.173.84 (talk) 07:13, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Re-writing health issues
I think this article would benefit from a clear distinction between scientific literature and cases reported in pop culture in the Health Issues section. Please let me know if there's any problem with that. Sutefu (talk) 10:05, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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Adding bass music
Novadays headbanging is important and even core part of bass music as well, especially in dubstep 5.173.3.89 (talk) 15:54, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Good idea, and good thinking here. I think that this can be put into the article, alongside some verifying sources. Mungo Kitsch   (talk)  20:10, 10 October 2022 (UTC)