Talk:Health geography

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Can someone stop medical geography from redirecting to health geography because it's not the same thing at all. Thank you Supposed 20:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Health geography is used as a term that covers also the area of study of medical geography. It's Ok, that it redirects here. There's no need to write another article about medical geography, at least for now. You can better expand this article. GeoW 19:01, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying but medical geography is not health geography persay. Health geography came out of it but medical geography is all about the bio-medical model and logical positivism whereas health geography is grounded in structuration structuralism feminism etc as well as logical positivism Supposed 06:16, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Anyone fancy defining access to healthcare as a seperate article. This is a huge area and would make a good article. I will try and add something once my semester is over but would be cool if someone were to start it in my absence. Supposed 16:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

This article is not clear on the difference between health and medical geography

I am doing a graduate seminar in human geography, and we are delineating the difference between health and medical geography. Health geography is post modern and not positivist (which lends itself to modernism). The original author for health geography is Robin Kearns whose article, "Place and Health: Towards a Reformed Medical Geography" (Professional Geographer, 1993) created a very different path for medical geography. Quoting Kearns "I suggest that two interrelated streams be identified within the medicine/health/geography nexus: medical geography and the geography of health. The concerns of the former are well known and involve spatial and ecological perspectives on disease and health care delivery. . . The concerns of the later would consider the dynamic relationship between health and place and the impacts of both health services and the health of populations groups on the vitality of places." So, medical geography is related to epidemiology and health geography is related to understanding the cultural framings and social identities related to health. Very different. Maybe one day I'll get around to doing something to change this page, or add one for medical geography. Bgoedecke (talk) 06:24, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Bgoedecke, thanks for that. I say we should quote Kearns verbatim in the article, seeing as he effectively defined the field at its incarnation. Supposed (talk) 16:02, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

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Hi Dang. Thanks for placing the picture on the article. My concern is that the picture in question is not really descriptive of health geogrpahy enough to merit inclusion here. It's more suitible to an article say on epidemiology. Health geogrpahy may skirt, epidemiology demography etc which tend to be more focused on population measures. Health geography is really quite different, generally operating on a much more local scale and making use of qualitiative methods that are largely ignored by epidemiologists, demographers etcV ((think ethnography, semi-structured interviews etc) and hence ignored when that picture you have added was created. Supposed (talk) 13:30, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

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Cholera Outbreak/John Snow
This is a nice tale that demonstrates John Snow's brilliance... and it serves as a great introduction to GIS and health geography in general. However, the story is a little misleading on this page. The cholera outbreak already was in steady decline by the time the pump was closed, Snow himself noted that. It didn't stop because the Broad Street pump was closed. Moreover, he didn't have power to order the closure of the pump. He merely presented his case and asked for authorities to close it down, which they did the following day after considering his description. This, combined with the fact that many people had fled the area by that time, was helpful in reducing the number of new cases. That said, they also reopened the pump a bit later, dismissing his theory entirely.

Obviously, I think this story belongs here, but maybe somebody with a better understanding of the history should rewrite it? It is a big deal in epidemiology and health geography, so it deserves a more careful explanation so that readers are not given the sort of mythical account of what happened.

Rob Shepard (talk) 18:11, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Underrepresentation and out of date
This article talks a lot about the environmental thinking that John Snow had which led him to the problem, yet I can't help but feel this article completely leaves out the problem of proper healthcare or lack of it in geographic areas. In many countries we can see the difference in life expectancy and medical care as we examine minority areas vs. affluent areas. Secondly this page seems slow with the pace the rest of the field and the world on viewing this topic. Christopherfree6 (talk) 00:17, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

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Suggested merge from medical geography
Health geography is the (co-)name of the subfield that was called medical geography a few decades ago. This development indicated the subfield's broadened interest in social theory, see, for instance, Place and Health: Towards a Reformed Medical Geography and [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/%28SICI%291099-1220%28199809%294%3A3%3C211%3A%3AAID-IJPG83%3E3.0.CO%3B2-O Medical or health geography? Populations, peoples and places]. Both terms are often used in combination, see the American Association of Geographers' Health and Medical Geography Specialty Group and the Blackwell Companion to Health and Medical Geography. So I agree that the two articles should be merged. Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 14:22, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

There is a clear distinction between Medical Geography and Health Geography. The Oxford Bibliography of Medical Geography defines Medical Geography as a 'sister field of health geography, which focuses on social dimensions of health, especially in economically advanced countries.' The two pages should remain distinct. UFGeog (talk) 21:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


 * First, your source isn't the "Oxford Bibliography of Medical Geography", it's just Oxford Bibliographies Online's entry on Medical Geography. Second, there are entries on Geography and Health, the Geography of Health Care and the Geography of Disease as well. I don't quite understand why they choose this structure, but I think that for a general encyclopedia, it would be too much of a fragmentation if we adopt it. Plus, the entry on "Geography and Health" (written by Sarah Curtis) contradicts your statement, noting that health geography "evolved over time" from the "dominant focus on 'medical geography' [...] to be viewed as 'health geography,' considering health and illness as socially as well as medically constructed phenomena." Ironically, one of the authors of the article you cite, Michael Emch, is a self-declared health geographer. Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 19:30, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Btw, the statement you cite originally refers to a distinction made in the Companion to Health and Medical Geography, specifically Part I: Debates in Health and Medical Geography. Of cource, it's absolutely reasonable to make such a distinction in our article on health geography as well, explaining in the first section the implications made by using either of the two terms. But that doesn't mean we actually need two articles. Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 20:36, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Klbrain (talk) 13:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)