Talk:Health in South Korea/Archive 1

Korea is not first for access to healthcare
Why was this added? According to the source given, Korea is in joint 1st place with TWENTY FUCKING NINE other nations, out of 34. Please don't try to push some pro-Korean, nationalistic agenda by lying about stats. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 10:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * So? It is still first for healthcare access according to the source. Massyparcer (talk) 02:00, 25 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, are you serious? Don't you consider stating that they are first, when in fact they are in joint first place with twenty nine other nations, out of a total of thirty four, to be just a touch misleading? Spacecowboy420 (talk) 07:10, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * What's misleading here? There's nothing factually incorrect. Massyparcer (talk) 08:14, 25 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Of course it's misleading. It gives our readers the impression that access to healthcare in Korea is better than all other nations, when it isn't. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 08:25, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * According to WP:V, there's no problem with this. That's clearly what the source says. Massyparcer (talk) 08:28, 25 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Erm the source says that Korea is in joint 1st place with 29 other nations. What benefit is there in you removing that fact from the article? Spacecowboy420 (talk) 08:53, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I have to agree with OP. Hwfr (talk) 11:54, 24 August 2016 (UTC) Hwfr (talk) 11:54, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Suicide rates.
They are (obviously) related to mental health, and therefore very relevant in this article. Can anyone give any reason for them being removed, (apart from pushing some nationalistic agenda)? Spacecowboy420 (talk) 08:22, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * People have clearly different reasons for committing suicide - It is your original research to conclude that it is "related". You need to stop inventing things out of the air and violate WP:OR. Original research is not permitted in Wikipedia. If you look at the OECD source, suicide is notably absent because it is irrelevant: I suggest you try to improve this article instead of trying to add irrelevant controversial content clearly with an anti-Korean sentiment in mind, given your continuous disruptive behavior to Korea related articles. Massyparcer (talk) 08:27, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

You need to check some sources. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 09:04, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Looks like Massyparcer has been banned for abusing multiple accounts. Guess you're vindicated Space Cowboy. Hwfr (talk) 11:55, 24 August 2016 (UTC) Hwfr (talk) 11:55, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Potential bias?
Reading this article, including the caption of the man's portrait at the top, it just feels to me like it's too good to be true. That and the shoddy English... Is this written by some Korean government cons? It's definitely not Wikipedia style. Hwfr (talk) 11:53, 24 August 2016 (UTC) Hwfr (talk) 11:53, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

New York Times
Regarding this revision. First of all, direct quotes have to be put in quotation marks. Second, with every revision, Phoenix777 removes several more current sources and also content.

"According to the World Health Organization, South Koreans rank No. 13 in alcohol consumption over all but No. 1 in hard liquor consumption." This is not backed by the WHO data. Moreover, this article is from 2012, I added the most current data of 2015 using the primary source. Therefore, the article has been updated. --Christian140 (talk) 21:23, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * "According to the World Health Organization" only applies to "South Koreans rank No. 13 in alcohol consumption over all" not to "No. 1 in hard liquor consumption", The description is based on the Euromonitor. The more detailed discussion is provided by the following sources:
 * You ignored these sources and removed entirely.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 22:36, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * You ignored these sources and removed entirely.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 22:36, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * You ignored these sources and removed entirely.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 22:36, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


 * haha. this is funny. Is the New York Times no longer a reliable source? I've added Time and Business Insider as sources. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 07:44, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Annotated bibliography for potential new article which will link to this article
I am planning on creating an article on Mental health in South Korea, and I will link to this article. Below are some sources, with brief descriptions, which I plan on using as references for the new article.

Boyd, Jennifer E., Emerald P. Adler, Poorni G. Otilingam, and Townley Peters. "Internalized Stigma of Mental Illness (ISMI) Scale: A Multinational Review." Comprehensive Psychiatry 55.1 (2014): n. pag. Web.

This journal article compares numerical data of internalized mental illness stigma in 55 countries including South Korea. This is relevant to the proposed “societal perceptions of mental illness” section of my proposed article as it gives quantitative analysis of mental illness stigma in Korea.

Chang, S.M., Hong, JP. & Cho, M.J. “Economic burden of depression in South Korea.” Social Psychiatry Psychiatry Epidemiology 47: 683 (2012). doi:10.1007/s00127-011-0382-8.

This journal article looks at the effect of stigma and insufficient mental healthcare on the economy in the context of prevalent depression. I will use this information in the proposed “Depression” subsection.

Cho, Maeng Je et al. “Lifetime and 12-Month Prevalence of DSM-IV Psychiatric Disorders among Korean adults.” Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease 195:3 (2007). doi: 10.1097/01.nmd.0000243826.40732.45.

This journal article provides statistics for rates of different mental disorders in the South Korean population. I will use this information in the proposed “Other mental illnesses” subsection to shine a light on less-researched, but still important, conditions such as anxiety disorders.

Chou, S. Patricia et al. “Alcohol Use Disorders, Nicotine Dependence, and Co Occurring Mood and Anxiety Disorders in the United States and South Korea—A Cross-National Comparison.” Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research 36: 654–662 (2012). doi:10.1111/j.1530-0277.2011.01639.x.

This journal article looks at the relationship between substance use disorders and mood and anxiety disorders, and compares their prevalence between the US and South Korea. This article is also relevant to my “Other mental illnesses” subsection.

Ha, JH, SY Kim, SC Bae, and S. Bae. "Depression and Internet Addiction in Adolescents." Psychopathology 40 (2007).

Specific to the adolescent demographic, this journal article looks at the relationship between internet addiction, depression, and obsessive-compulsive disorder. Its contents are relevant to the “Other mental illnesses” and “Mental illness in adolescents” subsections.

Jang, Yuri, Giyeon Kim, Lianne Hansen, and David A. Chiriboga. "Attitudes of Older Korean Americans Toward Mental Health Services." Journal of the American Geriatrics Society 55:4 (2007).

This journal article evaluates perceptions of mental illness by South Korean’s elderly population, one with a particularly high rate of mental illness and suicide. It is relevant to my proposed “Societal perceptions of mental illness” section and “Mental illness in the elderly” subsection.

Kahng, Sang Kyoung and Kim, Hyemee. “A Developmental Overview of the Mental Health System in South Korea.” Social Work in Public Health 25, 2 (2010). 158-175. doi: 10.1080/19371910903070408.

This journal article discusses the history of mental healthcare infrastructure and policy in South Korea, and provides a lot of necessary information to my proposed “History” section.

Kim, Agnus M. “Why do psychiatric patients in Korea stay longer in hospital?” International Journal of Mental Health Systems 11:2 (2017). doi:10.1186/s13033- 016-0110-6.

This journal article explores the phenomenon of increasing mental hospital stays in South Korea, particularly related to policy and societal views. It is relevant to my proposed “Mental healthcare” section.

Kim, Woo Jung, Yoon Joo Song, and Hyun Sook Ryu. "Internalized Stigma and Its Psychosocial Correlates in Korean Patients with Serious Mental Illness." Psychiatry Research 225.3 (2015): 433-39. Web.

Similarly to the piece by Boyd et al., this journal article is relevant to my proposed “Societal perceptions of mental illness” section due to its analysis of internalized stigma and its impact on the pervasiveness of mental illness.

Kwon, Jin-Won, Heeran Chun, and Sung-il Cho. “A closer look at the increase in suicide rates in South Korea from 1986-2005.” BMC Public Health 9:72 (2009). doi: 10.1186/1471-2458-9-72.

This journal article examines the cause for the upward trend in suicides in South Korea over a 19-year period and is relevant to my proposed “Suicide” section.

McDonald, Mark. “Stressed and Depressed, Koreans Avoid Therapy.” New York Times, 6 July 2011.

This article in the New York Times sheds a special light on cultural aspects of mental health in South Korea, particularly relating to stigma and treatment methods. Thus, it is relevant to the proposed “Societal perceptions of mental illness” and “Mental healthcare” sections.

Min, Sung-kil and Yeo, In-sok. “Mental Health in Korea: Past and Present.” Mental Health in Asia and the Pacific (2017). 79-92. doi: 10.1007/978-1-4899- 7999-5_5.

This journal article compares historical and modern mental healthcare systems in South Korea. It is relevant to my proposed “History” section.

OECD. “Korea’s increase in suicides and psychiatric bed numbers is worrying, says OECD.” 2011. https://www.oecd.org/els/health-systems/MMHC- Country-Press-Note-Korea.pdf.

This article by the OECD examines the upward trend in suicides and mental health institutionalizations in South Korea, particularly in comparison with other OECD countries, of which South Korea has by far the highest suicide rate. It’s information is particularly relevant to my proposed section on “Suicide.”

Ohayon, Maurice, and Seung-Chul Hong. "Prevalence of Insomnia and Associated Factors in South Korea." Journal of Psychosomatic Research 53.1 (2002): 593-600. Web.

This journal article looks at the causes and rates of insomnia in South Korea and is relevant to the proposed “Other mental illnesses” subsection, where I will briefly discuss insomnia and its relation to other mental health conditions.

Ohayon, Maurice M., and Seung-Chul Hong. "Prevalence of Major Depressive Disorder in the General Population of South Korea." Journal of Psychiatric Research 40.1 (2006): 30-36. Web.

Particularly relevant to my proposed section “Depression,” this journal article examines demographic characteristics and other aspects of depressive disorders throughout South Korea. It is also therefore relevant to my “Demographics of mental illness” subsection.

Research and Information Services. “RRT Research Response.” Refugee Research Tribunal (2009). np. http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/4b6fe2770.pdf.

This paper by the Australian Refugee Research Tribunal answers four questions related to the access and quality of South Korean mental healthcare, including stigma, and thus is relevant to both my proposed “Mental healthcare” and “Societal perceptions of mental illness” sections.

Roh, Sungwon et al. “Mental health services and R&D in South Korea.” International Journal of Mental Health Systems 10, 45 (2016). doi: 10.1186/s13033-016-0077-3.

This journal article examines the details and quality of mental healthcare infrastructure in South Korea and research and development related to its improvement. It is relevant to the “Mental healthcare” section.

Park, Hyun Sook, Karen G. Schepp, Eun Hee Jang, and Hyun Young Koo. "Predictors of Suicidal Ideation Among High School Students by Gender in South Korea." Journal of School Health 76:5 (2006).

Relevant to my proposed “Suicide” section, this journal article discusses demographic characteristics that are related to adolescent suicide ideation in South Korea.

Park, Joon Hyuk, and Ki Woong Kim. "A Nationwide Survey on the Prevalence and Risk Factors of Late Life Depression in South Korea." Journal of Affective Disorders 138:1-2 (2002).

Specific to the elderly population, this journal article examines characteristics and experiences related to late-life depression. I plan to apply it to my proposed “Mental illness in the elderly” subsection.

Park, Soo Kyung, Jae Yop Kim, and Choon Bum Cho. "Prevalence of Internet Addiction and Correlations with Family Factors among South Korean Adolescents." Adolescence 43:172 (2008).

This journal article examines the recent phenomenon of internet addiction among youths in South Korea, including demographic and other factors that are associated with the addiction. It is relevant to the proposed “Internet addiction” subsection.

Pescosolido, Bernice A., Tait R. Medina, Jack K. Martin, and J. Scott Long. "The “Backbone” of Stigma: Identifying the Global Core of Public Prejudice Associated With Mental Illness." American Journal of Public Health 103:5 (2013).

Relevant to my proposed section “Societal perceptions on mental illness,” this journal article looks at the reasons behind social stigma of mental illness in South Korea and its repurcussions.

World Health Organization. “WHO-AIMS Report on Mental Health in Republic of Korea.” WHO Collaborating Center for Psychosocial Rehabilitation and Community Mental Health in Korea (2006). http://www.who.int/mental_health/evidence/korea_who_aims_report.pdf? ua=1.

This analytical piece by the WHO dissects the mental healthcare infrastructure in South Korea, from policy to expenditure to division of bed usage by citizens. It is most relevant to my proposed “Mental healthcare” section.

Mhvla (talk) 21:01, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

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