Talk:Healy family

Michael Morris Healy
He is described as of Athlone, County Roscommon, or of County Galway. Can anyone shed light on his exact background? Fergananim (talk) 09:53, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Who is Mike?
Final paragraph includes rather unencyclopedic detail - "Mike Healy still lives in Lowell,_Massachusetts and has 4 sons and three daughters. The "Healy Boys" as they are known are considered the new pride of Lowell (second only to Brian Powers the reining pride of Lowell), all being athletes and like their father it is said of them "to know them is to love them"." Irish Melkite (talk) 13:26, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Deleted the entire, vague, and unsourced final paragraph "The Healy's had a large presence in Boston area, many of them living in Jamaica Plain, and the back bay area. The migration of the clan continued especially during the great potato famine when many of them lost their land to the British due to unpaid taxes. Most of them are buried in Old Calvary Cemetery. Mike Healy still lives in Lowell, Massachusetts and has 4 sons and three daughters. The "Healy Boys" as they are known are considered the new pride of Lowell (second only to Brian Powers the reining pride of Lowell), all being athletes and like their father it is said of them "to know them is to love them"." Irish Melkite (talk) 23:58, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Corrections for history of racial caste
It is true that the South, especially, and the US developed a binary way of classifying people, but that became more enforced in the early 20th century under the one drop rule than it had been earlier. In the 19th century, mulatto was used as a term on the census, and racial classification depended on the perception of the enumerator; it was also related to the neighborhood where a person was living, their neighbors, and their economic class. Numerous free mixed-race persons gradually moved into "white" society by marrying white over the generations, even before the American Revolutionary War. In the 20th century, the one-drop rule became law under various efforts of racial purity, as in Virginia in 1924. (Blacks were disenfranchised across the South from 1890 to 1908, so had little political power.) In VA, a top official of vital records ordered that existing records, of births, for example, be changed, and many Indian individuals and certain families whom he named were reclassified as black, because he was worried they were trying to "pass" as white. Due to the efforts of the powerful white Democratic Congressional delegation from the South, in 1930 the Census Bureau removed the classification of mulatto from the census, hiding the obvious mixed ancestry of many African Americans from official records and social acknowledgement.Parkwells (talk) 15:32, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Centuries earlier, in the colonial era, slavery had become a racial caste, because white colonists made it so. Faced with slaves gaining freedom in court cases (freedom suits) because of descent from English white fathers and, in some cases, being baptized as Christians, the Colony of VA passed a new law in 1662 that classified the children of slave mothers as slaves, regardless of their paternity, under the principle of parte ventrem sequitur. Under English common law, by contrast, children took the social status of their fathers, who were responsible for their support. But in the US, white fathers of slave children were freed of acknowledgement and support, which also put slave women at more risk of sexual assault. White planters, their sons before marriage, white overseers, and other white men sexually abused slave women or sometimes had longer unions with them. But there were more mixed-race families formed in the colonial period by unions between free white women and black men, slave or indentured servant or free, among the working class, as shown by the research of Paul Heinegg (Free African Americans of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland and Delaware, available online at www.freeafricanamericans.com). Their children were born free. Thus, by the late 18th century, there were already many mixed-race families, some free and some enslaved. The latter included mixed-race slaves of majority-white ancestry, such as among many of the household slave families at Thomas Jefferson's Monticello. Sally Hemings, his slave concubine and mother of his six mixed-race children (four survived to adulthood), was three-quarters white and a half-sister to Jefferson's late wife. Their children were seven-eighths white, all moved to the North as adults, and 3 of the 4 passed into white society as adults.Parkwells (talk) 15:32, 23 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Please, you are taking up unnecessary space on this page with your rambling. This is for discussing the article. Jonathan f1 (talk) 02:19, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

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Unsourced claim
"They also faced discrimination as Irish Catholics at a time of greatly increased immigration to the United States during the Great Famine."

This is completely unsourced and nonsensical. They were not "Irish Catholics". They were American born, not immigrants at all. Jonathan f1 (talk) 02:29, 28 August 2022 (UTC)