Talk:Heart-Shaped Box/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Crowz  RSA  23:53, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


 * GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (No OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:

Comments:
 * Line 2, In Utero should have commas surrounding it (i.e. ,In Utero,)
 * Fixed. WesleyDodds (talk) 04:49, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Notes should not be "==Notes==," rather, "===Notes==="
 * "Notes" sections aren't required to be subsections of larger sections. WesleyDodds (talk) 04:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it would look more appropriate since their is a reference section containing information needed in the Notes section. Crowz  RSA  00:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * "Cobain forgot about the song for a while, but began working on it again when he and his wife Courtney Love moved to a house in the Hollywood Hills" (Origin and recording), really doesn't sound correct.
 * What precisely sounds awkward about it? WesleyDodds (talk) 04:49, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well if it said something like "The song was written by Cobain, but was forgotten. Later he and his wife Courtney Love moved to a house in the Hollywood Hills, where they began working on the song again." Crowz  RSA  22:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Rereading the sentence in conjuction with the one preceeding it, the meaning seems pretty clear. WesleyDodds (talk) 13:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * "Track listing," probably would look better and more organized if you followed this guide.
 * The tracklist template is optional and is only recommended for complicated tracklists. I personally have always found it to be unnecessarily complex. WesleyDodds (talk) 04:49, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * ISBN 0-8264-1776-3 isn't valid.
 * I was pretty sure that was correct, but a google search says there's a zero at the end instead of a 3. I'll check the book again soon. WesleyDodds (talk) 04:52, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * By any chance is it ISBN 0-8264-1776-0 ? Crowz  RSA  21:35, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * ISBN number is corrected now. WesleyDodds (talk) 13:24, 7 March 2010 (UTC
 * Specific Comments


 * Lead


 * Origin and recording
 * Perhaps add  to somewhere else in the 5th paragraph (This would just make the paragraph look more reliable to readers)
 * (Par 3) Add link to demo (demo → demo
 * (Par 3) Add link to vocals (vocals → vocals
 * (Par 3) Add link to bass (bass → bass
 * (Par 3) Add link to guitar solo (guitar solo → guitar solo ) (mabye)
 * Good job on section: probably add one or two more sections tomorrow. Crowz  RSA  22:14, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I linked "demo" but not the others because they are common terms that don't require Wikilinks. I see nothing wrong with the placement of the citation. WesleyDodds (talk) 02:31, 9 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Composition and lyrics
 * (Par 2) "the song actually appeared to be about Courtney Love." add in "to be about his wife, Courtney Love."
 * Love is already introduced in the article, and thus does not require a modifier. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * (Par 2) Add link to Charles Cross (Charles Cross → Charles Cross)
 * His name is already linked in the previous section. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * (Par 2) "Hey/Wait/I've," mabye these should appear "Hey/ Wait/ I've" or something. I'm not sure about this.
 * There's no specified way for quoting lyrics Wikipedia. However, this is how I've always written them out in articles. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * (Par 2) Is "perceived by the media."a quote from the reference, because if it is it should be in quotes...
 * Crowz RSA  21:51, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not a direct quote, it's a summary of what Cobain said. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Release
 * Is the whole first half of the paragraph all mentioned in "Nirvana Set has Smell of Success"?
 * Yep. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * "in early September 1993." maybe there should be an "of" between September and 1993.
 * No, this is appropriate. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Add link to Billboard (I see it in the lead, but Modern Rock Tracks is too and it has a link.
 * Simply removed the Modern Rock Tracks link for consistency. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe add how long the album was on the chart somewhere in the paragraph.
 * There's no information available on this by reliable sources. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * "A single of the song was released" doesn't sound right at all. Change it to something like "The song was released as a single in the..."
 * Crowz RSA  21:51, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I phrased it this way so it wouldn't start out the exact same way the sentence before it did. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:17, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

These comments regard coverage of what I haven't given comments on. After these are responded to, it may be GA. I will finalize after all comments are resolved
 * March 13th comments
 * The In Utero extra track list in the infobox should be "studio," not "single"
 * Fixed. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:15, 14 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The lead doesn't say anything about the music video, other than it's director's name and about it's reception.
 * It's an adequate summary per lead section guidelines. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:15, 14 March 2010 (UTC)


 * "...received much American radio airplay.." mabye this would sound better "...received adequate airplay in the US..."
 * "Adequate" doesn't correllate with the clause after it, which mentions it topped the Modern Rock chart. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:15, 14 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Chart DOES meet WP:CHARTS
 * The cover art has a white gash in the bottom left corner, that should be fixed (here is the complete image (image resolution is currently good though)
 * I know nothing about handling images on Wikipedia, so I have no idea how to upload a new version. Personally, the mark is almost unnoticeable to me, and didn't see it until you pointed it out.
 * I fixed it. Crowz  RSA  16:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

WesleyDodds (talk) 11:15, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The In Utero page says the songs length is 4:41, this says 4:39, they should probably be identicle.
 * I'm trying to find my CD single of "Heart-Shaped Box" to see if it lists the track time. WesleyDodds (talk) 01:36, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah It does say 4:39


 * Mabye this should be in the external links
 * You can add it if you feel it's warranted. I have no opinion either way. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:15, 14 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Crowz RSA  23:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Great job on the article, especially with finding references for everything. Crowz RSA  21:12, 18 March 2010 (UTC)