Talk:Heart of Winter

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Will this be about nuclear winter? Where did u get the episode name btw? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.165.146.90 (talk • contribs)


 * No, just regular winter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.100.202.239 (talk • contribs)

Where are this refugees coming from??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.100.202.239 (talk • contribs)

The "old man" had a map with push-pins too. Did someone screen cap this part me-hopes? 74.69.146.243 03:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC) With the ring leader murdered is the head of the conspiracy dead or was he just a cell leader? According to this episode there were just 8 bombers. So what happened to all the other cities that are marked as attacked? Were the 8 just Hawkins's one cell?74.69.146.243 03:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

^ I interpreted "8" a bit differently -- that perhaps Hawkins and Sarah and the other 6 were "good guys", who were moles inside the larger organization of "bad guys", and now Hawkins finds out that half the other moles are dead, plus the "leader" of their group-within-a-group ("The Old Man"). And Sarah was a turncoat, ending up working with the "bad guys" to take down Hawkins and the final 2 surviving moles. That's my complex theory. ^_^ 199.214.28.246 20:52, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * With the amount of cities hit and mass chaos, I think there was multiple cells. Whats the current count on cities? 26? Even if half are right, thats more then 8. 71.206.98.63 14:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * A screencap of that map would be nice, if someone has one. Be careful with the speculation though, there are still a lot of unknowns. We learned that there were 8 people in Hawkins's group, but we don't know that they were the bombers. At this point it's entirely possible that the bombers represent a different group, and Hawkins's people were infiltrating them, or whatever. My point is that this are is for discussing the article, not idle speculation - leave that to the forums and blogs. 24.211.190.211 15:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Hawkings mentions a "chief" this enhanses the cell theroy 65.86.196.211 16:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Did anyone catch the make of that black truck that knocked Jake and Co. off the road? Looks too modern, yet is some how survived the EMP?!?!?! Also, where did Hawkins get a car to travel to see the "old man"? The old man must be close by (somewhere in the state??) if Robert can tell his wife he will be back before nightfall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.227.212.123 (talk • contribs)


 * It is explicitly mentioned in the episod that the old man is only two hours away from Jericho. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.165.146.90 (talk • contribs)

OK...just watch that part again. my bad.

The Attacker's Truck
The truck is a 1999-2002 Chevrolet Silverado. That is either one lucky truck (shielded by something during the EMP) or a continuity error. That model has tons of unshielded wiring and electronic modules that would be fried by an EMP. Cntrlwiz 00:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

If the truck were parked in a solid cement parking garage or had it's battery disconnected while it was in a garage being serviced it may not have been completely destroyed by the EMP. EMP requires something to pick-up the energy (copper wires for example) to create a current which fries the electronics. My guess is any modern car that didn't have the battery attached at the time wouldn't be able to complete any circuits for the EMP to cause damage via. Any modern cars we see in the show we should assume were spared for some 'fortunate' reason.--Jwsmiths 22:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)